(November 18, 2009 at 6:21 pm)padraic Wrote:I used to be a frequent poster on Atheist Nation. I'm familiar with the approach and with the arguments. I didn't assume that you patronizing me at all. I thought you were being considerate in giving me advise.Quote:I have applied critical arguments to theological approaches to interpretation.
Experience has taught me that when a believer makes that claim I need to be careful not to assume he means the same thing I would, because so far that is seldom the case.
To me,that claim means:
Having grasped the meaning of the word 'evidence'. Understanding the difference between a 'theory and a 'hypothesis and grasping the concept of "the burden of of proof".
Being familiar with some of the more common logical fallacies used by apologists. EG;
Argument from ignorance.
Argument from authority
Argumentum ad populum
The no true Scotsman fallacy (often thinly disguised as 'no true Christian')
Tu quoque.
The straw man
As you are discussing matters with atheists it's also a good idea to be aware what the word 'atheist' means. A hint; "atheism is NOT a religion,a philosophy,ideology or a political movement.
The link below is a good place to begin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacies
My apologies if yo are already familiar; I don't know you,so am assuming that like most theists we get here you have little understanding or experience of critical thinking. I don't say that to patronise you, but as an expression of long experience on several atheist forums. I can't really comment on Christian forums as I'm always banned as soon as I start questioning them.
It's ironic that the most rabid atheist forums (EG Raving Atheists) are more tolerant and accepting than any Christian forum I've visited. That's only because they won't let me be a moderator.
I've been on one supposed Christian forum. You're right. They're like sharks. They can so easily butcher each other on that particular forum. A few posts was enough for me. I haven't been to other Christian forums so I can't honestly speak for all of them.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.