(March 23, 2013 at 8:47 pm)Jextin Wrote: I am taking a couple religion classes and we had an interesting discussion in class - check this out guys
Jesus was not the messiah, and the New Testament is false. God doesn't go back on his word, doesn't change, else He's not God, or not a god worth bothering with. The whole virgin birth/nativity story is one of the most blatant and (should be) obvious proofs that the NT is the child of previous pagan myths, and not of Judaism.
And it doesn't end with the "immaculate conception". For the NT to be true, God would have to have lied about a lot of things, of which I list only a few here:
- He said in Numbers 23:19 that He is not a man. Because He also never changes (Malachi 3:6), He will never become a man, or come in man's flesh. And Numbers 23:19 is not temporal. Since God is eternal, and his word and promises are eternal, then if He ever did become a man, His word in Numbers 23:19 would be false, and that can never be.
- God condemns human sacrifice as an abomination to Him, and as totally unacceptable sacrifices (Deut. 12:31; 18:9-12; 2 Kings 16:3; 2 Chronicles 28:3; Psalms 106:37-38; Jeremiah 7:31). The NT doesn't teach that Jesus was a ram, a goat or lamb. And, being a circumcised Jewish man, and having been beaten, whipped and pierced with thorns, he was not unblemished, but was physically mutilated. That's also an unacceptable sacrifice beyond the repulsiveness of sacrificing a human.
- God tells us that no man can pay the death penalty for another (Deut. 24:16; Ezekiel 18:20, 22).
I always thought personally the OT contradicted the NT....but christians alway told me "omg they are all the word of god1! - u just haz no faith and arent saved!!" cool story i guess
I really feel for Joseph, must have been pretty awkard waiting on the couch while god banged his wife..."are u done yet god??" -"stfu joseph"
I always felt bad for him, "the virgin mary - thats my story and I'm sticking to it!"
Jesus' real name says he wasn't the savior too.
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