Science and religion

[jstrodel]

Yes.
Go ask that to a starving person and see how they look at you.

A spiritually mature person would prefer to starve rather than to do something seriously evil.

No, but it takes a lot for me to consider something " the most important question in life".

What makes it impossible for you to accept that being a good person is more valuable than other things. Does this reflect on your character?

And why must you be here answering my questions, instead of whatever god that exists and has the power to do so in a much more satisfying way than you could ever aspire to?

Because you won't seek God on his own terms but would prefer to read a book by an atheist who is an drunk like Christopher Hitchens or a womanizer like Bertrand Russel and accept the opinions of carnal men who do not know God's ideas about God instead of seeking God in sanctification and holiness.

Why are people always presuming to talk for this ultimate being?
Why do you claim to know what it thinks?
Why do you claim to know what would happen if it did show itself?
If it has never showed itself, how would you know about it?

Not presuming. I know because God has revealed it to me. It has shown itself. Either I am lying or I am crazy or I am telling the truth.

I promise you that I am telling the truth. God is real. I know that God is real.

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If you say that Christianity is on the same evidential level as the tooth fairy, you are a liar. And you will go to hell.

Well, you can repeat it 20 times, or 20,000.

Or you could, you know, provide some evidence for god. That six-year-old found a quarter under his pillow. You... hear things.

Now that I think of it, the six-year-old has more evidence.

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Where have you used the same reasoning against me?

I said I've been turning your own statements back at you. If you find that they're lacking in reason, I certainly won't disagree.

I have provided evidence for Gods existence in other threads. There is tons of evidence., the historical person of Jesus Christ, who fulfilled thousands of years of prophecies testifying to his existence, the coherence and explanatory power of theism through the cosmological, ontological, teleological, and moral arguments for God's existence, which fit together with the historical manifestation of the will of God in Jesus Christ, in the story of the Jewish people one of the most significant groups of people in history and the story of Christianity, who also make up one of the most significant groups of people in history, the miracles in church history, the massive amount of historical evidence that leads people to accept the miracles recorded in scripture, the fact that the early church testified to the reality of Jesus Christ and that people today, such as myself, testify to the reality of Jesus.

I HAVE SEEN MIRACLES. I AM NOT LYING. I HAVE SEEN THE POWER OF GOD. WHY WOULD I LIE? i HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING THEY HAVE. IT IS TRUE. IT IS TRUE.


The most persuasive evidence comes when you seek God yourself and you realize the power that God has to change lives. You see all the lives of people who are Christians whose lives change around and respect the contributions that Christianity has made. You see the value of the wisdom and goodness of Jesus Christ and how Jesus leads people to better lives.

When you really surrender your life to God and listen to God, you will find that that becomes more important to you than anything else. You will see miracles and experience the Holy Spirit.

Your heart is being tested right now, to see whether you will take seriously the possibility that you should change your life and take seriously that you may have not lived the best possible life and that you are guilty, or that you will turn around and repeat a canned response to these various arguments you have probably not spent more than an hour or so thinking about each.