(March 24, 2013 at 5:00 pm)jstrodel Wrote: There is proof of God's existence, for those who are skillful enough to obtain it.I find that at some point, nearly every theist will fall back to this point, that each of us could prove god for ourselves if we simply knew how. I consider it a euphemism for "no, I can't prove it."
The unskillful, the slow, and the foolish and the gullible do not obtain it, they obtain a black and white atheist apologetic world in which propositions are either "100% PROVEN" or they are "TOTAL CRAP".
jstrodel Wrote:Just out of curiosity, how old are you?44.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould