RE: Science and religion
March 24, 2013 at 7:48 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2013 at 8:01 pm by Darkstar.)
(March 24, 2013 at 7:44 pm)jstrodel Wrote: pragmatic truth claims are obviously very different from correspondent or ethical truth claims.I said philosophy too...
You made another post where you said that common sense says you should trust in empirical science.
What makes you think this? This is what I used to think when I was about 17 or 18 years old, I used to be an atheist and I had an immense trust in science. I didn't realize the fallibility of science, how quickly it is replaced with new theories, and how limited its sphere it.
Why is it common sense to base everything on empirical science?
(March 24, 2013 at 7:44 pm)jstrodel Wrote: If you had a relationship with a women, would you consult empirical science for advice? Would you think about statistical methods while you talking to her to discern the right way to act?Not life, physical reality. And, actually, science might be able to lend some help even in the situation you described. (I think you may have forgotten about the "soft" sciences like psychology) If god exists, there is no reason that science shouldn't have found him by now. I am not saying that it would be able to comprehend his powers when it did, but even if god were non-physical, his interactions with the world would have to take on physical form to interact with the physical world.
What makes you think that empirical science is the best way to understand life?
(March 24, 2013 at 7:44 pm)jstrodel Wrote: If the success of science in aiding modern societies is sufficient to attribute the power to grant ultimate knowledge, and ultimate dominion of yourself over to something (as you place ultimate dominion and control of yourself in the hands of science when you trust it), why not use morals based on technology instead? Why not base your morals on wet vac chemical methods?*cough* philosophy*cough*
(March 24, 2013 at 7:44 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Say you were going to get married. Why not ask the people that develop chemical formulas for wet vacuum cleaners for advice getting married? Surely wet vacuum cleaners have proved their utility in aiding people to clean floors.Isn't that just feeling? I mean, if you like them and they like you then it's emotion. Sure, you could explain the chemical reactions responsible for that, but it wouldn't be useful at the moment. Your feelings, paired with general common sense (if there is some obvious reason it won't work out) is pretty much what you would use.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.