(March 26, 2013 at 10:07 pm)Darkstar Wrote:(March 26, 2013 at 10:01 pm)radorth Wrote: Finally, (according to the Christian God), we rejected his offer of paradise, ignored his commandments, killed his prophets and finally knocked off his son. And now we have some right to complain about the punishment?
But isn't that all according to his mysterious master plan? Why else would he both allow Satan into the garden and fail to give Adam and Eve understanding of right and wrong (considering that he knew what would happen if he did both, since he is omnipotent)? And didn't (ironically) Jesus have to die (for some arbitrary reason) for people to have salvation?
Adam and Eve knew the difference between right and wrong, why, they understood there was a consequence for their action to do different than God had instructed. They did not know what good and evil were, just as a child knows right from wrong long before they understand good and evil.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.