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Agnostic vs Atheist
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RE: Agnostic vs Atheist
(March 28, 2013 at 7:07 pm)lewlking Wrote: Both atheists and agnostics view that conclusions should be based on logic, proofs, and evidence.
Some, perhaps most.

Quote:Agnostics say they cannot be sure whether god exists or not. This is the correct viewpoint to take, however, according to personal experience, many maintain illogical beliefs, such as in luck. They tend to be agnostics because they cannot decide which position to take and try not to think too hard about it. Agnostics typically fall in the ‘I am unsure’ category.
Correct? Where does that fall into whether or not one believes or does not know? Plenty of agnostics have written extensively on the subject, not sure it's a matter of not thinking too hard.

Quote:Atheists on the other hand fall in the ‘I am sure’ category because they solidly state their beliefs and welcome challenge. For these reasons many would be agnostics tend to call themselves atheists.
That would be gnostics, not atheists - but, in case you meant it a different way, an atheist would be sure that they didn't believe.

Quote:Thus, I would like to amend the definition of atheism with the following point.

Atheists do believe that there could have been a ‘god’ who created the universe and ‘works in mysterious ways’.
By definition...they do not.

Quote: However, since an infinite amount of these types of propositions can be made the probability of any of these propositions being correct is infinitesimally small.
granted.

Quote: For example: one variant is that god has the colour red instead of no colour, etc.
Some faiths propose an "invisible red line" - giggles abound.

Quote:Therefore, it is illogical to concern one’s self with any particular religion.
It may be, but not for the reason proposed above.
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Messages In This Thread
Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 7:07 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Darwinian - March 28, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Darwinian - March 28, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Darwinian - March 28, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Darwinian - March 28, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Simon Moon - March 29, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Joel - March 28, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by Whateverist - March 28, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: Agnostic vs Atheist - by lewlking - March 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm

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