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Why are you a Theist?
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RE: Why are you a Theist?
(April 2, 2013 at 6:29 pm)jstrodel Wrote:
(April 2, 2013 at 4:30 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Yeah... that's because you're trapped by the requirement of faith in order to accept a god.
Me, on the other hand, realizing that, somewhere in the distant past, either a god (or gods) DID have direct contact with a few select ignorant people, or those people invented said god(s), have no such baggage.
If it was invented, case closed, atheism is the correct approach.
If there was contact, then I expect equal contact with everyone... however, I see no such thing, so.... people have to resort to faith. But I refuse to resort to faith on such an important matter.
I refuse to accept the word of some other person, who accepted the word of some other person, who accepted the word of some other person, who accepted the word of some other person, who accepted the word of some other person, who... I think you see where this is going...

So god does not contact everyone, you have to seek it out. If _I seek out this non-corporeal entity, hoe do I do that? Which tools do I employ on such endeavor? Like I said earlier, no amount of scientific testing has yet yielded any divine entity.
Through wanting it to be there? and then finding that I become convinced that it is there?
Is this circular reasoning, or am I seeing things?

To seek God, examine your life, reflect on what the meaning of life is, what your nature is, how you have failed God, come to God and humble yourself and listen to God. Come ready to see how you have failed God and where God has a space to show you how your life needs to change. Read the Bible and ask God to reveal God's way to you. Don't read it to disprove it, read it like you are ready to repent of your sins and follow whatever verses the Holy Spirit will direct you towards.

You don't have to decide immediately that you are completely committed to God, just read it with your heart open, aware that you are not as great of a person as you could have been, ready to change your life.

You have to understand, God is very, very angry at you. God will reveal God's nature to you, but you have to be humble and listen. Does not mean you have to accept every Christian belief right off the bat.

God will not reveal God's nature to proud people or people that are just looking to spit in God's face and disprove God. You must come humbly and listen.
See where I bolded what you wrote... You are still wanting me to assume a god is there, before I have any knowledge of it.
I refuse to accept your (or anyone else's) account of a god. So I expect to find out about it from the source, just like the original people must have... unless they made it up, in which case we're left with the default atheist position - all gods are man-made and do not represent reality.
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Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 1, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Nine - April 1, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Tonus - April 1, 2013 at 7:46 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 1, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Simon Moon - April 1, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Brian37 - April 1, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by CleanShavenJesus - April 1, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Brian37 - April 1, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 1, 2013 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by CleanShavenJesus - April 1, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Brian37 - April 1, 2013 at 9:30 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 1, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Nine - April 1, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 1, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by MysticKnight - April 1, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 2, 2013 at 4:51 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 5:28 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by CleanShavenJesus - April 2, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by pocaracas - April 3, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Simon Moon - April 2, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 2, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:58 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:22 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:36 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:40 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 9:41 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 3, 2013 at 3:39 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 3, 2013 at 3:46 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 3, 2013 at 4:01 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 3, 2013 at 4:03 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 3, 2013 at 4:11 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 3, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 3, 2013 at 4:15 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by FallentoReason - April 2, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 10:41 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by CleanShavenJesus - April 2, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 2, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Violet - April 3, 2013 at 4:08 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by FallentoReason - April 3, 2013 at 4:25 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 3, 2013 at 4:25 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 3, 2013 at 4:47 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Silver - April 3, 2013 at 5:30 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Angrboda - April 3, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Tonus - April 3, 2013 at 6:26 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by Faith No More - April 3, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by The Grand Nudger - April 3, 2013 at 9:27 am
Re: RE: Why are you a Theist? - by frz - April 19, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: Why are you a Theist? - by TromboneAtheist - April 21, 2013 at 3:08 pm

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