RE: Intelligent design type evolution vs naturalism type evolution.
April 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2013 at 2:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 6, 2013 at 2:45 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If so many mutations occurred that gave rise to a whole system at once, how can a sensible person attribute that to sheer chance? Even if it happened one time in evolution, for it to be happen again and again, in evolution of our species, is lunacy.It's not "sheer chance" so I wouldn't know how to answer that question. Find someone who thinks it's "sheer chance" and ask them? What do you think happened in the evoltuion of our species? Here again I think you're assuming that we're some kind of goal.....
Quote:It implies a designer.What does?
Quote:Well ns can only do that if it's advantageous at overwhelming the majority of the steps in between from my perspective.No, ns doesn't actually care (can't care) whether or not something is advantageous, it's simply the measure of what survives to reproduce.
Quote:I know but the reverse is true. Just because you don't see it as impossible, doesn't mean others don't or are not justified in that perception.Unfortunately, we see it happening - this is the position in evidence, so regardless of whether I saw it as possible, or you did not, it is happening. Again, you aren't arguing any of this, and you aren't arguing any direct interference with any of the associated processes - you're content to let them operate-, you're just tacking on djinn without any requirement or evidence for them.
Quote:Mutations are not totally random, but over all, are random in nature. There is some structure to them, and some get more repetitive then others, due to natural selection and how genes are structured, but this doesn't mean they aren't random.The ones that persist in populations are in no way random. There are limits, one important limit being that they do not kill the possessor. Others being their deviation from source material. We don't expect, for example, for the genes that code human arms to code bat wings onto human arms from one generation to the next.
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