(April 8, 2013 at 8:46 pm)ManMachine Wrote: You are saying we share a biological identity, i.e. we are both human beings. No 'struggle' is necessary to 'preserve' this 'pretty damn simple' scientific observation.
Two can play this ridiculous game of yours. You call yourself ManMachine. Are you a man, or are you a machine? It is impossible to be both. Why are you claiming such an obvious contradiction?
Quote:It doesn't matter what you or I think about the extinction of our sepcies, one day, it will happen. That is a fact of evolution, it's got nothing to do with any notion of being 'better off', that is an irrelevance.
But - and this is the interesting bit - to you it is relevant. To you, against all scientific reason, there is a 'struggle' to be had in 'preserving' our 'shared humanity'.
If scientific reasoning is not behind your belief in its relevance (and we have seen that it can't be) then it must be worth investigating what is.
This is why I called your presumptions about me baseless. Because you believe it is futile for a human being to desire the preservation of his/her species, you conclude that any such desire must be impractical and perhaps even unknowingly theistic. That is an arrogant and, again, baseless conclusion on your part.
You didn't prove that my view is non-scientific, you just proved that you are far less resolved and motivated than myself. You just proved that you are a quitter who lacks any level of creativity or sense of perseverence. You just proved that you are completely closed minded and would have been better off being born in the dark ages.
Because you can't think of any way that the human species can survive, you assume that it is impossible. You are the skeptic who, 100 years ago, could never see us traveling into space. You are the skeptic who, 300 years ago, could never see us flying or using automobiles.
You speak of evolution but you have no belief in it. You think we've come as far along as we are ever going to.
Now, since I've shown that it is I, and not you, who believes in human evolution, who's the Theist now?
Perhaps we should investigate the reasons behind your fatalist views.