(April 8, 2013 at 10:25 pm)smax Wrote: Two can play this ridiculous game of yours. You call yourself ManMachine. Are you a man, or are you a machine? It is impossible to be both. Why are you claiming such an obvious contradiction?
This is why I called your presumptions about me baseless. Because you believe it is futile for a human being to desire the preservation of his/her species, you conclude that any such desire must be impractical and perhaps even unknowingly theistic. That is an arrogant and, again, baseless conclusion on your part.
Are you actually reading what I'm posting or just picking out random words? I didn't say it was 'futile for a human being to desire the preservation of his/her species.'
You didn't prove that my view is non-scientific, you just proved that you are far less resolved and motivated than myself. You just proved that you are a quitter who lacks any level of creativity or sense of perseverence. You just proved that you are completely closed minded and would have been better off being born in the dark ages.
Because you can't think of any way that the human species can survive, you assume that it is impossible. You are the skeptic who, 100 years ago, could never see us traveling into space. You are the skeptic who, 300 years ago, could never see us flying or using automobiles.
You speak of evolution but you have no belief in it. You think we've come as far along as we are ever going to.
Now, since I've shown that it is I, and not you, who believes in human evolution, who's the Theist now?
Perhaps we should investigate the reasons behind your fatalist views.
This is just nonsense. non-sequiters, irrelavnt conclusions, assumptions, no critical examination of what I'm saying and pointless babble about my username?
Your repeated attempts to derail the debate into irrelevance rather than deal with the points I'm raising is not interesting or engaging for me so I'm out.
I'm not a fatalist. If you are interested in my philosophy I would say it is probably best defined by my strong opposition to Meliorism, humanism and neoliberalism.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
