What Sacrifice ?

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How can I not want to be around something I don't believe exists?

I'm describing Christian afterlife. We're assuming Christianity since the question was "how was there even a sacrifice?". This relates. If you'd like, I can give a proof, but I'm sure you have either heard it before or would dismiss it immediately due to presuppositions.

What if I want to die?

You don't. You might despise your current situation and see death as a way out, but you really want the situation to be better.

If it's that important, why must I believe what you say?
Why can't the guy show itself to all?
Why is it that people in remote parts of the world only came to know about this Jesus/Yahweh thing from previous believers? Why didn't the thing present itself all over the world?
Why the requirement for human vessels for this knowledge?
Why the requirement of belief?

PS: don't say "free will". Give a proper answer.

Five questions, five answers.

1. Because refusing God will suck later.
2. He does, just not directly. Direct appearances will happen at resurrection, but because of sin, he took that away. Even when Jesus was on earth, he didn't show directly (ok, he did once to 3 of the apostles, but it was not a physical show, but an old fashion vision/dream. Then, on top of that, they didn't understand). Most importantly, he doesn't simply want us to comply, he wants us to desire compliance. God will not violate our freedom to choose.
3. You don't need that. The person doesn't even have to have a concept of "God" for salvation. There are "transcendentals" (philosophy, not religion now) that God literally is. These are Beauty, Order, Good, True, and Being/Existence. They don't need to worship God with the words "I worship Jesus" or any of that, but they need "a reverence for God indirectly". So, if one reveres (inward disposition as "higher good") sinlessness (the Good), but doesn't know about the Christian God, as long as any errors they may had are not held on to with pride but changed with humility, they're good to go at resurrection. However, if one is ultimately selfish and has never heard of the Christian God, they are not revering the Good. They require some other reverence (Order, Beauty, Truth, Being).
4. I'm assuming you mean bodies. If that's not the case, correct me. We get bodies because they are fundamentally good. They allow for physical sensation, thoughts, interaction, and just about everything. Without a body, a soul doesn't do much.
5. "God" is a title, not an actual name, but we use it so because YHWH is all we know. If YHWH is not your God, then you are either distorting the proper relationship (God and worshiper) or denying the relationship altogether. If belief=trust like I said, the relationship will be proper.

Finally, I don't know what other term I'm supposed to use for "free will". I mean free will. I mean there is a soul that allows the control of actions and dispositions (although not desires) in human beings.

So he had the wrath of...himself? Does it actually say he deliberately tortures himself or is this pure speculation?

The two I like are John 3:36

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

and Romans 3:23-25

...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

Summary: Jesus made propitiation (appeasement) to the Father for all people, believers and unbelievers. This means the offenses against God and man (sins) for everyone past, present, and future were suffered for. Again, this is not just a physical suffering.

Greasy sophistry. There is no sacrifice. For fucks sake, Jesus didn't even get a single bone broken in his body! What a joke. As if being spit on, heckled, or god-forbid, betrayed by a friend can count as a sacrifice worthy of saving the entire human race, let alone a death that doesn't even last for a full three days. Cast Jesus into Hell for a trillion years and maybe I'll consider his actions worthy of the term, sacrifice.

I'm glad you read what I wrote... Remember the part where I said, "If this was all just physical, I'm sure people have had things worse, but this is not just about pain sensors or psychological damage."