What Sacrifice ?

[ThomM]

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For the sake of argument, lets pretend the following:

Jesus Christ actually existed and he was indeed the only son of the god, Yahweh.
The Bible, with all of its contradictions, is somehow true and the story of the crucifixion happened just as the Bible professes.
The god Yahweh, created Jesus by miraculously inseminating a young girl named Mary somewhere around 2000 years ago (give or take), with the specific intent to see him die on a cross for the sins of the world.
The god Yahweh required himself to accept a sacrifice from himself, of himself, in order to forgive the sinful nature of man that he created himself.


So obviously I'm puzzled.


Who is the sacrifice? Where is the sacrifice? What sacrifice? Cause it's certainly not Jesus.

A man who has the ability to walk on water, turn water into wine, pull loaves of bread and fish out of thin air, heal roman-soldier's missing ears, raise the dead back to life and cure leprosy among many other acts, "sacrificed" HOW exactly??? I mean the man wasn't even in the tomb for a full 72 hours.
Not only does the death of a man who can come back to life not count as any kind of a sacrifice but even his supposed suffering can easily be disregarded. It sure stands to reason that a man with those kind of powers could easily block the pain receptors of his own body, and with no active nerves, his crucifixion would've been more like an uncomfortable afternoon rather than the purported day of excruciating pain.


I see no sacrifice whatsoever. Again, assuming only for the sake of argument that it actually happened - it seems more likely that Yahweh just needed to use the event as a cosmic shotgun to extort the hearts and minds of 100 billion people ... and counting.

Indeed - not only is there NO sacrifice - but there is NO reason for the claim of a need for one as well. THe contradiction is that the religion itself teaches personal responsibility - (YOu are not responsible for sins of your father) - but then attempts to create a SIN that affects even people who were not alive.

Obviously this is just another part of the fairy tale - and it depends on you believing that a snake caused the supposedly first woman to do something for which she had NO idea of the consequences - because she did not understand what EVIL was to begin with.

THe problem is that this story is nonsense - and simply represents another example of ancient religions' need to create a situation that established the requirement of their existence. Over the millenia - thousands of religions have fallen by the wayside - when the religions turned out to be simply myth and legend - and people moved on to NEWER myths and legends OR they incorporated other myths and legends into their existing religions.