(April 16, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Chuck Wrote: Er, no. it doesn't actually matter what you think of your "god" or "bible". It is the fact you do not admit to the possibility of error in your thinking - such as it is with the likes of you - that makes you risible.
Where did I say there’s no possibility of error in my thinking? I simply said there’s no possibility of error in God’s word, which there isn’t. Please don’t misrepresent my position in order to feel better about the absurdity of your own.
Quote: Er, no. I did not actually appeal to ridicule. I simply ridiculed you.
If you looked it up you’d realize they’re the same thing. It’s irrational to merely ridicule someone else you disagree with. Now that I think about it though, you’ve never claimed to be a rational person, so I guess I cannot be too hard on you for not being one.
(April 16, 2013 at 5:54 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Prove it. Don't assert it, prove it.
I’d be happy to demonstrate it, give me an anti-Biblical concept scheme or view of reality (preferably yours) and I will.
Quote: Even if you can prove it, so what?
I’d be perfectly content with holding the only logically consistent and therefore true view of reality. If you’re fine with absurdity then I am not sure why you are trying to debate this issue.
Quote: Prove that reality must necessarily not be absurd.
I am not obligated to prove any premise that both parties in the discourse agree upon, if you didn’t believe reality had to be rational you wouldn’t be having this discussion with me right now because the act of debating assumes reality is intelligible.
Quote: Prove it. Don't assert it, prove it.
Sure, give me a precondition of human experience to work with and I will show you how you cannot make sense of it and the Biblical view of reality can. In the spirit of Christian charity I have even allowed you to choose the precondition.
Quote: Says you.
No, not according to me, according to logic; if you demonstrate that “A” is a necessary precondition of “B”, and “B” is true then “A” must also logically be true. If Human experience and intelligibility require that God exists, then God must exist, and the debate is over.
Quote: I say show your work.
You sure are demanding, give me something to work with and I will.
Quote: Um, no.
Um, yes. If scripture is infallible, then all other truth claims made by fallible sources must submit to scripture’s authority.
(April 16, 2013 at 6:17 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: I’ll just leave this here for you Statler.
Radiometric Dating A Christian Perspective
Why are you being so intellectually lazy by linking to an article you’ve never read? Surely you know that Dr. Wiens never answers my question in that article (although he does admit that the empirically measured diffusion rates of Helium contradict the deep time model); so I will ask it again. Radiometric dating requires that the decay rate of Uranium is uniform for the entirety of Earth’s history; if it is not uniform the method is rendered useless, so how do you know the decay rate has remained uniform? I see no reason for holding that assumption and therefore I cannot accept the method as scientifically valid.
