(April 16, 2013 at 6:44 pm)catfish Wrote:(April 15, 2013 at 4:24 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: ...who am I strawmanning? That's the only reason to believe Jesus and all the things he did. The Bible. So I said it to make a point.
You are strawmanning Christians. You asked a question, then asserted the answer. Exactly what point could be made for setting up the question and response?
My point is that you made the error of calling the Bible the word of God so I asked to see proof of that claim which you admitted you couldn't provide.
Because the Bible is the only proof that the stories told about Jesus occurred, correct? It's a strawman to say that?
Because if the Bible isn't the word of God, then how can it be trusted? If it's not the word of God, then it's simply stories written down according to oral accounts decades earlier by normal men, translated, re-translated, re-written, re-translated, given to kings to take their favorite part out, and then re-translated. Not a very reliable source.
So it's either:
A) Jesus Christ existed, and did all the things mentioned in the Bible, because the Bible is the word of God
or
B) Jesus Christ may/may not have existed, but did not do the things mentioned in the Bible because the Bible is not a reliable source due to its massive susceptibility to human error. There's no reason to believe anything written in the Bible or, at the very least, no reason to take any of it literally.
Which is it?
And if not one of these choices, what would your Option C be?
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