RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
April 20, 2013 at 6:36 am
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2013 at 6:50 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(April 17, 2013 at 6:22 pm)paulpablo Wrote: My argument is that making it legal for 9 year olds to marry opens up the flood gates for wide spread child abuse, children giving birth which is not advisable on health grounds and so on and so on.As all of you refused to give another system, let's compare it to US laws
You say even with laws in place 9 year olds will still have sex.
Well even with Islamic laws in place muslims will still disobey these laws but with the aditional factor that it is now perfectly legal for them to talk to a childs parents and get her to marry him.
or give a specific example then see how it will/should be treated under different laws.
What is better for a girl at 9 that wants sex?
to marry under Islamic rules and restrictions
or to have sex with another boy (17 for example) without marriage.
Quote:I enjoy living in a country with laws that do try and prevent wrong doings, especially towards things like men having sex with children,But none of them prevent a child from having sex with another child.
(April 17, 2013 at 3:48 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.I asked for a proof not for a link
NO, People are not equal
Just think like that (If there is a God and he asked humans to worship him, then a non-follower is a criminal and should not be treated equally)
Quote:It is not permitted in IslamQuote:What do you mean? Islam doesn't allow rapeForcing a woman to have sex with her husband, though she doesn't want to is according to Swedish (and many other countries') law rape.
Quote:Laws are not proofs.Quote:Men are allowed to beat their wives (and children) but not strong and not on face, it something like spanking a childAgain, physical violence, no matter how 'mild' is against the law.
And if the wife doesn't like too much, she can divorce her husband.
(April 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm)festive1 Wrote:I can prove otherwise!!!(April 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Yes a Muslim can have 4 wives, your argument is that women are equal to men; can you prove that?Seriously???
Quote:A wife is not a child (or shouldn't be). A wife should be a partner in life. If you wouldn't "spank" a business partner, then you shouldn't "spank" your wife.Sometimes a wife needs a disciplinary action
Do you know any successful system in life that is not hierarchical?
Business, Politics, Sports, Religion, Legal all are hierarchical system where leaders/managers are on top then people follow them.
Marriage is the same, the man is the leader and his wife submit to him, it doesn't mean that she blindly obey him, there are discussions and opinions but the man leads
That is why the rate of divorce (failure) is much higher in the western countries.