RE: Any questions on Islam?
April 20, 2013 at 8:56 am
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2013 at 9:04 am by Free Thinker.)
(April 20, 2013 at 6:32 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(April 18, 2013 at 3:56 pm)Free Thinker Wrote: How is this related to sex (rape or adultery). It's kissing. Since when is kissing = sex ?Everything that goes with sexual desires is related to sex (don't you know English)
So kissing, touching even watching is sexual matters
Kissing is foreplay - but is not sex, therefore the hadith you quoted is irrelevant because the discussion was about punishments for sex - and that too rape.
Only a blind fool would think that the fact that primitive Muslim jirgas and clerics punish women who themselves were raped have no justification in Islam. The issue lies in the call for witnesses to rape. Basically, a woman is supposed to present two witnesses to her own rape in order to be considered raped and therefore free from punishment. If she can't provide the witnesses, then she is considered to have committed adultery. Tell me, what kind of idiotic logic is this? The kind of idiotic logic that one can only get from a patriarchal system designed to favour men over women. Archaic and stupid.
(April 20, 2013 at 8:13 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(April 20, 2013 at 7:54 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:Even with family members there are many restrictions
Do you for example grope your mother???hock:
Islam has rules that cover everything from birth to death
And that assumes that humanity is incapable of devising their own morality.
I'm sorry you feel like you have to live according to the rules that were devised 1500 years ago ... many of which are archaic today. I would much rather live in a society that evolves and adapts and creates new rules and live amongst people who define their own morality and function within rules that are relevant today and not written down by a bunch of men 1500 years ago - who believed in things like slavery, didn't know anything about sexual health amongst a thousand other things that weren't intented/discovered back then.