RE: Why Richard Dawkins should debate Christians
April 22, 2013 at 11:08 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 11:10 pm by smax.)
Slater,
It occurs to me that all of the same points are being made and missed here again and again. I never claimed there was any truly nuetral ground, just that both points of view could be examined carefully. I'm not surprised that you reject that notion, however, as it seriously undermines the validity of your religion. However, I was Christian, at least I professed and tried to be. Now I am an Atheist. Many Atheists traveled that same path. Therefore, it is safe to say that both points of view can be carefully considered.
What is most apparent in this exchange here is your refussal to focus on actual subject matter. I use the word magnificent, you need clarification. I use the word verify, you need clarification. I say I've carefully considered both sides, you need clarification.
This pattern of yours reveals that you do not feel strongly enough about your position to argue it's merits, therefore, you use petty deflections to avoid facing the subject at hand.
At times when you've been cornered into actually stating your position, things like this come out:
And, while that may sound good to you, it's a useless piece of gibberish to anyone with any sense of objective logic.
So, what exactly are we debating here? As far as our conversation: nothing. Nothing at all. I'm interested in an actual discussion and debate about the Christian perspective and it's merits, and your interested in semantics and spelling names right.
If you decide you want to dispense with the deflections and actually tackle the subject matter, I'm game. In fact, it's why I'm here. But it seems like a fairly poor use of my time to try and explain myself to a seemingly infinite degree every time I make a very clear point.
That said, I was Christian at one point as well (I've grown up since then) so I understand how bored you are, and how much more meaningfull meaningless things are from your perspective. But it's not just your time we are utlilizing here, so keep that in mind.
It occurs to me that all of the same points are being made and missed here again and again. I never claimed there was any truly nuetral ground, just that both points of view could be examined carefully. I'm not surprised that you reject that notion, however, as it seriously undermines the validity of your religion. However, I was Christian, at least I professed and tried to be. Now I am an Atheist. Many Atheists traveled that same path. Therefore, it is safe to say that both points of view can be carefully considered.
What is most apparent in this exchange here is your refussal to focus on actual subject matter. I use the word magnificent, you need clarification. I use the word verify, you need clarification. I say I've carefully considered both sides, you need clarification.
This pattern of yours reveals that you do not feel strongly enough about your position to argue it's merits, therefore, you use petty deflections to avoid facing the subject at hand.
At times when you've been cornered into actually stating your position, things like this come out:
Quote:No, it’s based on the infallible word of the creator God, I’ll take that faith any day of the week and twice on Sundays
And, while that may sound good to you, it's a useless piece of gibberish to anyone with any sense of objective logic.
So, what exactly are we debating here? As far as our conversation: nothing. Nothing at all. I'm interested in an actual discussion and debate about the Christian perspective and it's merits, and your interested in semantics and spelling names right.
If you decide you want to dispense with the deflections and actually tackle the subject matter, I'm game. In fact, it's why I'm here. But it seems like a fairly poor use of my time to try and explain myself to a seemingly infinite degree every time I make a very clear point.
That said, I was Christian at one point as well (I've grown up since then) so I understand how bored you are, and how much more meaningfull meaningless things are from your perspective. But it's not just your time we are utlilizing here, so keep that in mind.