RE: Atheism is not a belief!!
April 25, 2013 at 1:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2013 at 1:56 pm by Violet.)
(April 25, 2013 at 1:29 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: I'm avoiding a long confusing inevitable discourse by cutting to the chase. Not a fan of straw.
Well then, why do you insist on using it to build you houses and your army?
Quote:Since the base of every God theory is an underlying unfalsifiable hypothesis, it really saves us the time of having the debate over whether anyone can "Know" a God exists or not.
Not necessarily

Plenty of falsifiable ones have shown up, plenty more have the potential of being falsified once your puny race can start galaxy-hopping.
Everyone can know a god does or doesn't exist, knowledge being wholly separate from the correctness of said knowledge.
Quote:There is no reason to believe in any God at all. That is not the same as saying that I believe he does not exist, and its certainly not the same as me claiming to "know" one way or the other.
I can think of a number of reasons to believe in any gods at all, a number of them are even very good ones (makes you feel good, gets your wife to bang you, kids more obedient since you're a shit authority figure... etc).
You believe no gods exist? Well good for you, you've just claimed to know that no gods exist. You're certain enough to believe one way or another.
Plenty of other atheists and theists are alright with not being certain... does this bug you?

Quote:Atheist only exist as a necessary biproduct of the individual making claims about Gods we don't believe.
Atheism only exists because theism exists. That is to say: everything is an atheist, unless it is a theist. Every rock, tree, and map on this planet is an atheist... theism is a product of having the mental capacity for faith. You don't subscribe to their beliefs, that's cool... you have your own set of beliefs and they hopefully work for you (the sidewalk isn't going to eat you as you walk along it. But I don't know, maybe you do believe that it might. I'm not you).
Quote:I also don't believe that i'll wake up tomorrow with one less arm.
Now that's just naivety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu13UrF3UDU
Quote:I've had good luck so far and can see nothing to suggest that I should plan for such a thing, therefore, I don't believe its gonna happen.
Heaven forbid you have bad luck once in your life

Quote:I am not saying it can't or its not going to happen simply because I have the inablility to show it false.
Yes, that's the kicker, isn't it? So then, you must be open to the idea that maybe one day you'll be convinced of a god or six.
Quote:But, the lack of evidence for such a thing is enough for me to sleep well and not consider such a thing as a possibility.
A lack of scientific evidence for metaphysical beings makes you certain that such things aren't a possibility?

Quote:This of course doesn't seem to warrant a title because there isn't a huge group of people called "Nocturnal Amputationists" attempting to convince me that it's a common occurence that I should begin preparing for. If there were, I'd be a "A-Nocturnal-Amputationist" too!
Oh, I wouldn't be too sure. You might give me ideas.
Quote:Any word you like that deals with the ignorant claims of having knowledge of such things is not of any interest to me.
So... you're still talking, towards something I've said, though you've no interest in anything I have to say?
Cool story, bro.
Quote:It's a waste of good discussion that's been beaten to death.
And yet, alive and well it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9tAKLTktY0
Quote:So, again...I am an Atheist because I have no reason to believe any God claims.
No, you're an atheist because you don't believe in any gods. There's a difference, Max

Quote:I remain at the default position of a questioning, sentient being. I am not interested in any other variations of any other levels of ignorance.
Oh, so you're a baby? Mighty fine vocabulary you've got there, baby, but you might want to work on your sentence structure.
I mean, that second sentence is totally intelligible. Something about not being interested in ignorance, wondering now if he ever drinks or gets laid.
Quote:I am aware I don't have the answers, I am ok with not knowing, and no, and I haven't heard any God theory that doesn't fall flat on its face, so, I don't accept it as an answer to any of the questions I don't have answers for.
That's just the thing... you do have the answers. Infact, you're the only who has any answers, since the world is you, and you came into being only last thursday.
Seems to me you aren't creative enough to come up with a 'god theory' what doesn't fall flat on its face... so what would your answers be worth anyway?

(April 25, 2013 at 1:29 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: [EDIT] By the way, I'm on a government computer that doesn't allow access to YouTube or other fun video sites, so if you posted a video that was intended to be educational, I'm affraid I won't be able to be enlightened by it. You'll have to use your own brain to defend your thoughts through text.
All the better, your own inabilities illustrate the point as a master painter illustrates his canvas.

Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day