Atheism is not a belief!!

[Godscreated]

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@ Mister Agenda, my point was not addressing the heat they were experienced from the sun, it was how hot the sun is, this they could not know, they also are not able to know the sun was actually a ball of gas burning in space.

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We agree on this, and my point stems from it.

The individual attempting to explain the origin of the sun by simply assuming that all things that are hot-are created, has committed the fallacy of composition. If you read on, Jane spots this, and it is one of her reasons for rejecting Bill's claim.

Another example:

1)Lightning is made of electricity
2)Electricity is distributed by the power company
3)Therefore lightning is distributed by the power company


So...were you inadvertently pointing to the illogical assertion made by the theist? Of course not...right?, our secret bro.

Secret bro, I do not think so. I was saying that neither of them could assert that God existed or did not exist on the fire,sun comparison. Did you not read that I would have sided with Jane if that story were true.

They ring of confusion, and illogical assumptions.

No biggie. I understand perfectly well why you are confused and its not necessary for you to explain why. That logic thing is a real ball buster for some of you theists...Tell me the story of the watchmaker again please!!!

I understand perfectly well that you were using a story to compared to the creation story, and you failed to do so with the illogical assumptions in your story. I have no watchmaker story to tell, unless you want to hear about a good friend of mine who was a watchmaker, he's been dead for sometime now and I miss him in many ways, guess what as far as I know he was never a believer. For me that's sad.