Christ's birthday

[chatpilot]

I am glad that we mostly agree on the impossibility of Christ having a birthday based on his non-existence. Padraic, I don't consider trusting what a family member or close friend states as true the same thing as faith. Because in most cases what a friend or family member tells you can usually be verified in one form or another and is not beyond the reach of investigation, as is the existence of God and the many claims and miracles of the bible. I used to equate trust with faith but although faith contains trust it's what you are placing your trust in that makes a difference. Trust in something mundane such as a rumor or an urban legend is a far cry from trusting something supramundane and outside of all verification or investigation.