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If Jesus came back to life....what was his sacrifice?
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RE: If Jesus came back to life....what was his sacrifice?
(May 5, 2013 at 11:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Because He said so?!?

1. The sort of non-answer which results from a lack of thinking.
2. That just proves that he desires and enjoys death. He didn't make death the payment for sin because he had no other choice; how could an omnipotent being be subject to necessity? The only explanation left would be that he wants people to suffer death, and the only explanation why is because the death of men gives him pleasure.

Quote:We truly have no idea of the consenquences sin has on everything. Our relationship with sin is graded on a curve. Meaning our exposure to it has raise our tolerance of it to the point where we have no true perspective of what even our smallest sin really does.

The only consequences of sin which should matter, to a believer, is what consequences they have on God. Obviously, they can have none, right? He could not actually be harmed or in any way put out by sin. Sin cannot be a threat to him in any way. What is it, then? It offends his pride. God looks at sin the way an abusive husband looks at his wife when she tries to think or do for herself. Like the abusive husband, God reacts to this with anger and revenge. I often wonder why Christians have such miserably poor standards of goodness and perfection, that they would worship a being like this.

Quote:That is what self righteousness does. It tells you you are basically a 'good' person because you do not involve yourself in extremes. When in truth because you are in a constant state of sin you can never truly have the perspective you need to see yourself as you really are...

But, I do have that outside perspective. And now I see what it really means. After all, sin is nothing but saying no to God. Sin is not inherently or objectively bad. There are many evils which are not sins, and many harmless acts which are. So, what am I? A good man? Maybe. Not completely. I have my faults and my shortcomings. My standard of goodness is alien to you, however, because I live in the real world and care about real world things. I care about humanity, while your religion holds mankind in utter disdain. I want humanity to mature and achieve, you anxiously await your prophesied end of the world and the deaths of everybody.

The one who lacks perspective is yourself, deluded by the idea that not only is there an objective set of right and wrong actions, but that your god is the source of that objectivity. This is, no doubt, why you have previously made it clear that atrocities committed by God's command are good actions.

Quote:After all Did the Nazi war crimminals see themselves as evil people? No the loved their country and saw what they did as something like a cleansing that needed to happen in order for their country to be strong. Just like in every other Major Super power had done up to that point in history. The US included.

Do Christians see themselves as evil people? No. They love their God and see what that they do in God's name as something like a cleansing that needed to happen in order for them to find favor with their God. Just like every major religion had done up to that point in history.


Quote:Moo Ha Ha Ha Better sleep with one eye open or God will get youWink

Why can't you ever answer that question? Does God enjoy seeing blood spill?

Quote:I believe you have confused me with someone else. Remember I am the one who worships The warrior God who order babies to be smashed against rocks and who order women and old people to be put to the sword. I have no problem with His demand for death for sin, especially when He sent His only son to do all of the dying for those who don't want to die for what they owe Him.

So, you admit, then, that God is not loving and merciful?

Quote:In turn if You do want to die (As Jesus literally was beaten bled and died that what was 'sacrificed' He endured what you owe) for your sins/what you personally owe God. I have no issue with letting you do that. That means I have less issue with God requiring that of you. Why? Again because He provided a substitute for those who do not want to pay God what they owe, and you know of that substitute. Which makes it your choice your problem. If God saw fit to give you a choice then who am I to argue with what you choose?

Why is violent extortion considered a righteous act by Christianity?

Quote:Infact I can demonstrate everything God says in the bible to be true. (As we have previously ) The only problem is if I take all of the steps needed to show you want you want to see it would be too late for you to do anything about it. (You would be dead)

All that prevarication says to me is that you are a liar making false claims. Put up or shut up.

Quote:That is why I suggest that you A/S/K as Luke 11 outlines. For if God shows you what is on the other side you might get a ride back so you can put into practice what you have learned.

I already told you, I A/S/Ked and I did find the truth, which is to say, I found nothing.
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RE: If Jesus came back to life....what was his sacrifice? - by Ryantology - May 6, 2013 at 2:25 am

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