Re: RE: Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK
May 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2013 at 9:32 pm by NoraBrimstone.)
(May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Yes, it would. The exact same reason for allowing gays to marry could be applied to all sorts of permutation and combination of humans.So? That's irrelevant to the cause at hand.
(May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Not true, the majority of people in the UK do not support equal marriage, only hardcore libertarians like Tiberius support equal marriage. Equal marriage means allowing any two consenting adults to marry, (although I would argue that there is no true equality unless you allow two consenting children also to marry, or a consenting child and a consenting adult, although this is a whole different debate)The majority don't support equal marriage? This is a "majority"?
Like I said, you're a fucking liar.
(May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: No, people can't marry the dead because the dead can't legally consent. Again, what you are saying isn't true. The argument in favour of gay marriage is identical to the argument for supporting polygamy and many forms of sexual relationships, that is the issue at hand here. It's good to see you're being consistent by supporting gay marriage, but the fact is, there is not much choice in terms of supporting such measures in the name of "equality" if you're going to support the marriage between same-sex couples. Therein lies the legal nightmare.Again, so what if the argument is the same? If you want to play the "the argument is the same!" game I could point out that the argument against gay marriage is the same as the argument against interracial marriage. Oh look, I just did.
(May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Well, whether it will or won't happen remains to be seen, but there is every reason to think it will happen.
Not true Nora, there is every reason to think this. A situation arising where a synanogue or a church or a mosque throwing out gays in the street for asking for a marriage and then lobbying parliament for new legislation designed to curb this loophole in equality laws isn't very far fetched to imagine.
Tell me again why you think it will happen?
When did you last hear about divorcees lobbying parliament over Churches refusing to remarry them? This shit doesn't happen. It won't happen.
(May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Because that is my opinion, gays should not have equal rights as straight people with regards to marriage, neither should incestual or peadophilic relationships be equal to two consenting opposite sex adults marrying. There is no such thing as equality in many parts of society and it should remain that way.But why should gays not have equal rights? They pay their taxes, they should have full human rights. Why should they be punished? There's no logical reason for it. What does society gain from discouraging love?
It's just as well really that the Lords will pass it regardless of ignorant tiny-dicked Narnia-dwellers like yourself, and love will once again triumph over hate.
(May 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Well, I didn't know that, and I don't know whether or not I should take your word for itActually it was Channel 4 News, not Newsnight. My bad.
And I forgot, after that they had a campaign going with Christian schools where they offered gifts to schoolkids for signing their petition. Lol