Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK

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With regards to the gay marriage issue, why do you accept the government mandating who can legally marry? Don’t you think it would be more libertarian to abolish the government’s powers of defining marriage and just allow private institutions such as religions etc. to define marriage. I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

I support that idea as well, but whilst government is insistent on being in the marriage business, they should be doing it fairly.

Of course unequal things can be “right”. The NHS and the UK social welfare runs on progressive taxation, unless you oppose universal healthcare, you must accept that unequal unfair taxation does result in a greater good. Who cares about the golden rule? I don’t, I don’t see why I should. It should not applicable in all circumstances.

The NHS and social welfare do not run on progressive taxation. They run on taxation, whether it is progressive or not. There is no reason to think that a flat rate of spending tax would not be able to fund these services, especially with cuts to the ridiculous military budgets and other overspending we have in the UK.

I think the golden rule is applicable in all circumstances. Unless you are a sociopath, why would you want to treat people worse than you would treat yourself, or have people treated worse than you would be treated?

Like I said, I don't think marriage should be fair, but I respect your opinion about that. I don't mind somebody believing that any two adults can marry regardless of who they are but for me, that is very very extreme, I'll never accept that.

The NHS and UK social security cannot run on flat rates, you can't run a welfare state like that, it's just not going to happen, not sustainable, especially in cases of high unemployment when welfare payouts is higher and primarily the poor are impacted. That's why parties like UKIP are never going to get anywhere, their economic platform seeks "fairness", a flat rate of 20% would mean deep cuts in social security. Although as a libertarian, I can imagine you wanting a shrunken irrelevant central govt.

Murderers and thieves are treated worse than myself, are they not? Why should they be treated like me? Why should I treat a kid like an adult? Why should I treat an elderly person like a young, active, healthy young person? You're comparing apples and oranges here. If the concepts aren't the same, the consequences need not be the same. Two men in a relationship =/= a man and a woman, to label them the same should not be a right.

I remember an article on the evening standard one day, where a council refused a couple to adopt some immigrant children because the couple in question were UKIP members. Now, the "fair" thing to do would be to oppose such a move, but here are two UKIP members - not supporters- members of a party distinguished for its anti-immigration platform, the irresponsible thing to do would be to hand over to them immigrant children. This is is clear cut case of unfairness, but sometimes unfairness is the right approach. Would you hand over black children to members of the KKK? It's a hyperbole example but it proves the point.