Two excellent reasons to OPPOSE gay marriage in the UK

[Tiberius]

Just look at the words you're using, it's a "delay" issue, "not a civil rights issue", "invented to delay", "no reasons" for heterosexuals to have civil partnership, there isn't "any point". Forgive me but it sounds like you don't have any justification for this opinion.

I've already justified my opinion! Marriage is a legal and government controlled process that gives heterosexual couples all the same rights as civil partnership does, with the added ability to have the ceremony anywhere they like.

The only thing that is different is the name.

How would you like it if I said there's "no point" for gays to marry or that the gay marriage issue is just a distraction (which it is).

There is a point to gay marriage. I've pointed it out in this thread: civil partnerships are not equal, even if you continue to pretend they are so.

Either you want equal rights or you don't, am I wrong?

I want equal rights. I want same-sex couples to have the right to marry, and then we can get rid of the silly civil partnership status once and for all.

If heterosexuals don't want to marry but have a civil partnership, you would say no to them, you would say gay rights come first because heterosexual rights is just a "delay" tactic. How condescending.

Firstly, I wouldn't say no. I said this above, which you quite neatly ignored:

This doesn't mean I'm against civil partnerships for heterosexuals. If heterosexuals want them instead of marriages, fine...

Secondly, I wouldn't deny a civil partnership to anyone, but my point was, why even have it in the first place if a marriage does everything a civil partnership does, and more. It's like going to a burger shop, where they are selling a single patty burger and a double patty burger for the same price. You get double the meat in the double patty burger, and for no extra money, so why would you go for the single? At the very least, even if you don't want the extra patty, you could give it to someone else.

Thirdly and finally, I did not say heterosexual rights were a delay tactic. Don't make a strawman of my position. I argued that this particular issue (that of heterosexual civil partnerships) is a delay issue. It serves only one purpose, which is to push the legislation of this bill back by a few years. And no, gay rights don't come before any other rights.