(May 21, 2013 at 2:57 pm)goodnews Wrote: Oh really, first you have not a clue what the Gospel is, as you follow the doctrins of a man, who believed Jesus was His own Father ! secondly I am not a Universalist, and have not studied there doctrins, therefore do not know how these verses fit into "their grasp" of Gods salvation plan, so how am I suposed to comment honestly, Now you can not give me one scripture that says God will not save all men, can you no you cant, as for John 3:16 is clearly speaking of believers who will not perish, aposed to non-believers who shall face the second death, as all men are destined to die once, its this second death that we believers are warned about etc etc so if you want to debate weather God is to save all men, give me one verse where it says that NOT ALL MEN WILL BE SAVED !
I gave you two. You attempted to argue about John 3:16, this is my reply: Where in the fuck does John 3:16 talk about a second death? This verse is simple, you either believe and enjoy eternal life or you don't believe and perish. It's that fucking simple. Second death? Now you're just making shit up instead of admitting your mistake.
What's really absurd is that you are arguing against the very basis for your religion. If God is going to save everyone, what need is there for a Christ?
Since I'm dealing with the simple minded, let me put this another way. For the last 30+ years, self involved assholes have spent good money on premium seats to major sporting events, not to watch the action, but to hold up a big sign that states: "John 3:16". Not once have I seen one of these assholes hold up a sign with "1 Timothy 4:10" scrawled on it. Care to consider why?
