(May 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm)Sal Wrote:(May 24, 2013 at 4:38 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: It's such an impressively complicated subject that dogs are fucking each other before two years have passed in their life.That's moving the goal-post; a 2-year old dog is technically an adult, but nice try.
Would a puppy want to fuck an adult dog?
It's not moving the goal-posts, you misunderstood the comparison. Evidently you didn't read the sarcasm around the terms 'impressively complicated subject'.
A median adult dog has the intelligence of a median 6-year old human. It was a question of sex's complexity, which is to say: if a dog of two can understand sex enough to have and enjoy it, why cannot a human of 6?
As for the last... you tell me. I know of a brother and sister kitten (1 year each, same litter) that fucked each other and made some four-five incest kitties.
Quote:More goal-post motions.
You're a real big fan of these 'goal-post moving' claims... I wonder if you know what that means.
I asked you what the fundamentals of having a 'sexual nature' (a term which I don't yet know what you mean by) are... what is the root of a sexual nature? Please also observe... you had said this: "I contend, though, that since they do not have a sexual nature, this would be nothing more than a curiosity that adults partake in, like drinking fine wine and beer and knocking each others brains out, preferably in a large bed."
To which I asked myself, 'why do you believe that children do not have a 'sexual nature' and adults do?', to which I recognized that the only physiological difference between the two beings is: hormones. Then I explained why this is NOT the root of sexual desire, fulfillment, enjoyment, but of initial desire, the former being what I had assumed you meant by 'sexual nature'.
If you mean the latter, then by all means: children don't have as much of a sexual nature (they do, however, still have hormones) as adults... but this means nothing as to how well they would enjoy sex ("this would be nothing more than a curiosity that adults partake in"). Now that we're done observing that you're a disingenuous twit, let's take a look at your new argument

Quote: The difference is that I'm already an adult, meaning I would've learned because I would have the gone through puberty in your scenario, no sex-drive notwithstanding. A child hasn't gone through puberty, hence the difference.
So learning is the only difference between children and adults? This means, if a child of three learns about sex as they might about the ABCs: they are completely and utterly ready for fucking. A 'sexual nature' can be boiled down to... learning? I guess you can't have much of a sexual nature without some hands on experience: let's start them on their practical exams immediately after weening them off milk. Preferably with cocks.
Quote:That was sarcasm. Sorry I didn't use an emoticon to elicit that. :|
Oh? Then you'll agree, yes?
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day