Pedophilia; I can't accept it.

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I wasn't addressing the goal post movements about the sarcasm bit, nice try (again). Instead of talking about how they're obviously already adults you shift the focus onto its 'complexity', when I'm talking about ability (not gone through puberty and all that) to understand.

Okay... what abilities does one gain by going through puberty? Are they as impressive as those gained by falling into a vat of radioactive waste?

What makes a being an adult? How does an adult form of a being differ form a nonadult form of a being?

You're really a sour old kraut, aren't you?

Slow down there Lassie, who says they enjoy it? Is it because they've gone through puberty, or because it's easy to do (not 'complex')?

One might observe their eroticized panting, bodies quivering in excitement, and orgasmic behavior that mimes that seen in other mammals (including apes)... for starters. Mammals tend to enjoy sex when it isn't forced upon them despite willing against it, which we can provide data for if you really need it, but you're not seriously about to argue that only humans (of all the animals) enjoy sex, right?

They don't do it because it's easy to do, but because it is easy to do: they seem to have a hard time screwing it up. They don't do it because they've gone through puberty either, though their having gone through puberty may be a factor in catalysting that which they do have sex for

My only contention was they hadn't gone through puberty, hence not being developed sexually and being able to further the human species and whatnot alongside it.

Not being as sexually developed, I think you mean. Clearly, they are sexually developed enough even from birth to exhibit organs for which the implicit 'purpose' is to engage in sex; organs complete with a nervous system that facilitates enjoyment of sexual activity (whether that be the practice of having sex or masturbation).

But then, how does sexual development impact whether a being can, or cannot, enjoy sex?

As for the last... you tell me. I know of a brother and sister kitten (1 year each, same litter) that fucked each other and made some four-five incest kitties.

That's anecdotal, but I'll take your word for it (although how it could be indeterminate between 4 or 5 makes me a tad suspicious). And I don't know - I only have puberty and how puberty raises interest, of a 'sexual nature' between the sexes, or your own sex, if you're gay. I Don't know how to categorize bisexual.

Not my cats (but my niece's), don't know if the litter was 4 or 5. I don't know how many cousins I have off of the top of my head either, should you feel suspicious if I say that I have 18-26 cousins? I could ask her if you wanted me to, I'm sure she'd love to sell you one of the incest kitties.

But anyway, you're parroting what I said in the first place: puberty adds value to a person's 'sexual nature', but is NOT the ROOT of that. I ask you again: what is the root of 'sexual nature'? How, if not by puberty, does it apply only to adults, and not to children, or even newborn babies?

Sexual interest as a qualifier is an observation of how much you value sex with any particular <arbitration>... a high positive value, is to say you have much interest in having sex with <arbitration>, a nonexistent value, is to say you have zero interest in having sex with <arbitration>, a high negative value, is to say you have much interest in not having sex with <arbitration>......... but it is not an observation of whether <given being> is capable of enjoying sex or not. No matter how much you want to be fucked in your vagina, if you've no vagina: you're kind of out of luck, at least for now.

You forgot the physiological differences before puberty and after puberty; it's not just hormones. Case-in-point for females is menstruation, and for men the production of sperm cells.

And does menstruation or producing sperm cells increase one's sexual pleasure? Is a non-menstruating female incapable of enjoying sex? Is a male without sperm-producing testicles incapable of enjoying sex?

And ability, don't forget that, but I digress, you're fond of moving goal-posts and putting words into peoples mouths/

Learning and ability both? Well then, you DEFINITELY can't have any 'sexual nature' at all without first being fucked. But I guess that makes sense: you can't much enjoy sex if you're not having it.

Cocks, not words, Sal.

On what?

With what, rather... what being: everything I've said. Including the fucking newborn babies part, wouldn't want to leave the poor sods without a 'sexual nature', would we?