RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 25, 2013 at 4:18 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2013 at 4:43 am by Violet.)
(May 21, 2013 at 6:07 pm)wwjs Wrote: Imo it's justified only when mother's life is at danger and when woman was raped and filled out police report, not just came and said "I'm raped and I want abortion".
It's justified only by ruining two already existing lives? Interesting.
But hey, that's better than ruining three by allowing it to advance beyond its protohuman stage
(May 21, 2013 at 6:08 pm)Raven Wrote: Problem is that in spite of what they say, it never has been about that. It's about patriarchy, misogyny and "keeping them barefoot and pregnant."
If men got pregnant, I doubt very much that abortion would have ever been illegal.
While it's true that it probably wouldn't be illegal, to say that it's entirely about such things as patriarchy and misogyny is to be ignorant of the reason that many level-headed people (a good half of them women) are against abortion: they see it as murder.
I disagree, but then... I would also consider killing any person to be murder, and yet I'm okay with that if I didn't value the person very much Bonus points if we eat it afterwards... waste not: want not.
(May 22, 2013 at 3:41 am)Tiberius Wrote: What about people who are against abortion but not Christians?
They don't exist, obviously. Y'know... everything exists, except for anti-abortionists what are not Christians.
Me? I thought it was a joke 0.o
(May 22, 2013 at 8:07 am)festive1 Wrote: A fetus cannot survive outside of its mother until around about 24 weeks. Up to that point it is entirely dependent upon her. At 24 weeks gestation it takes magnificent feats of medical technology to keep the baby alive. Not to mention the potential for lifelong complications due to such a premature birth (hearing and vision problems, asthma, cognitive issues, etc.) If it can't survive on its own, then why should the mother be forced to carry it to term?
No human baby survives on its own... without something to feed it: it is fucked.
Just saying There's no difference between a fetus and a baby when it comes to surviving completely on their own: they both fail. Miserably, too.
The fetus is usually uglier, though. So it's death will be less mourned.
(May 22, 2013 at 2:45 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Another potential consequence of sexual intercourse is catching an STI. Are you opposed to people getting treated for those as well?
Seeing how pregnancy is an STI... why would you even ask the second question?
Quote:How about potential consequences of other actions? What if you get a sky diving injury and break a leg, should we deny them medical care?
Yes, because nobody should fall that far and live. I say we shoot them when they land, and make bloody certain of it.
You know... the one thing I love about abortion threads is how it brings a bunch of speciesists together. Next time we have one, I should just disintegrate every one of them while they're clumped up That's efficient use of resources, it is ^_^
(May 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It looks like a human embryo, which is what matters to me. It's a human. It has human DNA. Not only that, but it has its own individual DNA, and it's alive.
Why does that matter to you? ... You're not a bloody vegan, are you?
* Violet looks upon Tiberius with disgust.
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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