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Intelligent Design, Proof III
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III
(May 25, 2013 at 9:56 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Now, to the challenge
Can and Evolutionist repeat one stage of the development of one part of the body of a single animal (an Eye for example)

Seems too hard????

What about reversing the process!
Making and Ape from human
Quote:Seems like a huge non-sequitur to me. How does claiming that evolution is very unlikely mean that we ought to try and replicate even one part of it? What the hell would that prove??
Remember that I don't deny evolution, only the UN-intilligent part!

Quote:The fact is that we're here, whether we were part of 1 million coins thrown up or whether we were designed. The latter explanation requires too many mental gymanstics for my liking, so I think I'll go with the former: there are billions upon billions of stars in the universe. That means there's probably trillions upon trillions of planets out there. You can figure out the rest...
This is totally irrelevant, the existence or non-existence of other life, doesn't mean that we came by a coincidence

If you agree with the first part, then any intelligence should be able to outperform the random (UN-intelligent) process

What we are not able to replicate any of the nature (UN-intelligent) actions?

The only possible answer is that the natural system is more intelligent than us.

(May 25, 2013 at 4:41 pm)apophenia Wrote:
Evolutionary algorithms which mimic evolutionary processes have been used to design antennas that outperform even the best designs that an intelligent human designer could produce. More proof that evolution is smarter than you.
Many thanks.

(May 25, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The eye is probably the single-most well represented structure in all of evolutionary biology. You probably should have picked something else - it's been done to death, I see no need to repeat it.

We "make apes" all day long, every time a human being is born. You haven't thought this through at all.
I read an article long time ago written by a stupid Evolutionist who claimed that the Eye evolved from skin in about 50 rounds.

(May 25, 2013 at 7:50 am)Esquilax Wrote:
Quote:for example if I brought to you a stone statue and told you that it was created by weathering and erosion sculpting an existing natural rock in five minutes, you would not believe me because you will need (a month) to do it (with your intelligence)

No, I wouldn't believe you because five minutes isn't enough time for erosion to be enacted. And I'd recognize that my inability to envision a natural explanation doesn't mean there's a supernatural one, and also that my inability to do something doesn't mean nature is similarly incapable of it.
Give an example (other than evolution) where a random process cannot be matched by our intelligence!

Quote:
Quote:We can change species, has nothing to do with "UN-Intelligent" evolution, the max that you can prove is that Evolution may happened.

Why did you ask for it if you're then going to turn around and say it doesn't count? Shift the goalposts a little more, "Scholar."
Because intelligence is not about just making things, it is about the efficiency in doing things.

Can you give an example of a random process that can outperform an intelligent one (for a defined, repeated target)?
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Messages In This Thread
Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 25, 2013 at 3:52 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by KichigaiNeko - May 25, 2013 at 4:11 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Kayenneh - May 25, 2013 at 4:18 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 4:23 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by downbeatplumb - May 25, 2013 at 4:28 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Cato - May 25, 2013 at 4:33 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 25, 2013 at 6:17 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 6:24 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 25, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 6:52 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 25, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 7:50 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by cratehorus - May 25, 2013 at 4:56 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 25, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Minimalist - May 25, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Nine - May 25, 2013 at 6:08 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by KichigaiNeko - May 25, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Kayenneh - May 25, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 6:51 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Dragonetti - May 25, 2013 at 8:01 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by popeyespappy - May 25, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Psykhronic - May 25, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Psykhronic - May 25, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by LastPoet - May 25, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by little_monkey - May 25, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Angrboda - May 25, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by FallentoReason - May 25, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 26, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 26, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 26, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 26, 2013 at 7:27 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 28, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 28, 2013 at 3:31 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 28, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 28, 2013 at 4:39 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 28, 2013 at 5:42 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 28, 2013 at 9:23 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 29, 2013 at 2:08 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 29, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by pocaracas - May 26, 2013 at 7:14 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Baalzebutt - May 28, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Muslim Scholar - May 29, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 29, 2013 at 2:04 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by KichigaiNeko - May 28, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by Esquilax - May 28, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by KichigaiNeko - May 28, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by The Grand Nudger - May 28, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Intelligent Design, Proof III - by downbeatplumb - May 28, 2013 at 12:39 pm

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