The really really short and tired answer is because I haven't found a belief that I can justify other than Christianity.
Posted, my bad.your reference to "whatever situation" puzzles me. IMO. God did the First step in creating the Big Bang in my book. Whatever situations that have happened since are constrained by the laws of our known universe and created by cause and effect. Most currently the world we live in I think is mostly a construct of actions, thoughts and beliefs of the creaturesinhabiting this planet. We used our free will to question him and he's let us do all the questions and come up with our own answers.
(December 3, 2009 at 3:25 pm)Saerules Wrote:to the point I acccepted it yes, without question. Can you be moral and good without God? Of course you can, why couldn't I. If "heaven" does exists though, I feel that certain steps need to take place to get in.Maybe heaven is just the spark that gives us self-actualization getting carried outside of the universe into my big blue ball of love and hell would just be staying here in this confineing space, however vast. I don't know but I'm making my best assertion based on what's true to me.(December 3, 2009 at 2:36 am)tackattack Wrote: Yes I would. If you proved that nothing happens when you die except ceasing I would still have morals and ethics, need for community, history, belief in other dimensions, science. I would still live in the now and feel the need to care for and nurture others. I would still want to make the world better, if not as intensely moreso.
How about if the entire religion (and the gods and beliefs associated) were disproved (to the point you accepted it)...?
Would you maintain the same morals and desire to make the world better?
(December 4, 2009 at 7:50 pm)Darwinian Wrote: I'm not sure what it is with Christians. Maybe because they are so fired up to defend their position to atheists or so full of the holy spirit but they always seem to forget the niceties and to introduce themselves in the introduction thread as they were asked to do when they signed up.
We're a friendly lot here and we like people to say hello before they start debating. Small point perhaps but one worth noting.
Anyway, thanks for your response to my question. You say that Christ set us free. My question would be, free from what? Surely whatever situation that we find ourselves in that requires a character like Jesus was created by God in the first place.
Posted, my bad.your reference to "whatever situation" puzzles me. IMO. God did the First step in creating the Big Bang in my book. Whatever situations that have happened since are constrained by the laws of our known universe and created by cause and effect. Most currently the world we live in I think is mostly a construct of actions, thoughts and beliefs of the creaturesinhabiting this planet. We used our free will to question him and he's let us do all the questions and come up with our own answers.
