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There is more than one way to heaven.
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RE: There is more than one way to heaven.
(December 14, 2009 at 6:27 am)theVOID Wrote:
tackattack Wrote:What if we fast forward it so far to the future that bears are extinct and there are no fossilized remains. someone has eventually wrote the story down at the time it was told to them and passed that down. If the basis for the writing of the story started at a point even 500 years after the original it would still differ greatly. The natural world is something you're going to have to define for me.My perspective at the time of the original occurance was based on my percieved reality of my surrounding world. Who are we to say what a more primitive man's percieved reality was. To them seeing angels and pillars of fire was commonplace. It was real enough for them to transcibe an oral tradition and put their observations of it onto a scroll. I'm pretty sure I saw Chris angel walk on water a few weeks ago. Perhaps we just lack perspective on what is attainable?

What if we fast forward it so far to the future that unicorns are extinct and there are no fossilized remains. someone has eventually wrote the story down at the time it was told to them and passed that down.

Clear enough?

http://www.crystalinks.com/unicornlascaux.jpg
prehistoric cave drawing depicting something that could have become the now "unicorn"
That doesn't answer the question. If all of your physical evidence is dust or destroyed, if the knowledge of how to build something is lost. Does that mean the thing couldn't have exist? Someone needs to tell those tourists in Egypt that the pyramids don't really exist if that's the caseWink

(December 14, 2009 at 6:27 am)theVOID Wrote:
Quote: If the basis for the writing of the story started at a point even 500 years after the original it would still differ greatly.

Christianity is only 40 years after, so it's a bad comparison.
unless the bible is just a more modern interpretation of previous evidence. I'm no biblical historian but I'm pretty sure the old testament predates Christianity by more than 40 years.


(December 14, 2009 at 6:27 am)theVOID Wrote: [
Quote:My perspective at the time of the original occurance was based on my percieved reality of my surrounding world. Who are we to say what a more primitive man's percieved reality was.

A lot of people have perceived many different things, we can either believe all of them because "who are we to say" or we can compare their experience to a reality that we can observe and see if they are congruent.

Quote: To them seeing angels and pillars of fire was commonplace. It was real enough for them to transcibe an oral tradition and put their observations of it onto a scroll.

There are lots of people seeing Greek and Roman and Egyptian entities too, does that mean they are also true? What about people seeing ghosts? People who claim to be abducted by UFO's? What about David Icke seeing reptilian overlords who rule the world?

If the claims of Jews and Christians are good enough for you to consider them true then why don't you believe everything that anyone has ever claimed? It is all the same stock standard testimony.

Because of my tests with God. Because I see patterns in coincidences that are based off actions I have no choice in or don't want. Because I can see the end results of my work are far better than if I had done nothing.

(December 14, 2009 at 6:27 am)theVOID Wrote:
Quote: I'm pretty sure I saw Chris angel walk on water a few weeks ago. Perhaps we just lack perspective on what is attainable?

ROFLOL

Chris Angel would be the first person to tell you that none of that shit is real. He's an illusionist and Skeptic!

I thought you would like that! I don't claim that it's real. I don't believe in talking serpents or burning talking bushes, or pillars of fire. I've never experienced or seen it. The point I was making was the people taking eye witness account believed it was real. Therefore I allow the possibility.
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Messages In This Thread
There is more than one way to heaven. - by V-te - December 8, 2009 at 1:28 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Tiberius - December 8, 2009 at 1:30 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2009 at 12:56 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 1:33 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by V-te - December 8, 2009 at 1:46 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Tiberius - December 8, 2009 at 1:48 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by V-te - December 8, 2009 at 1:53 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 2:03 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Darwinian - December 8, 2009 at 3:12 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 3:21 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Darwinian - December 8, 2009 at 3:27 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 3:38 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Darwinian - December 8, 2009 at 5:16 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 6:00 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by fr0d0 - December 8, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 3:54 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 8, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 5:21 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by fr0d0 - December 8, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 8, 2009 at 7:59 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 9:00 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 9, 2009 at 4:10 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 9, 2009 at 10:13 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 9, 2009 at 5:56 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 9, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by fr0d0 - December 8, 2009 at 5:00 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by LEDO - December 8, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by littlegrimlin1 - December 9, 2009 at 12:06 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 9, 2009 at 12:15 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by littlegrimlin1 - December 9, 2009 at 12:23 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 9, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by LukeMC - December 9, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by leo-rcc - December 9, 2009 at 11:18 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 9, 2009 at 11:49 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 9, 2009 at 1:44 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by LukeMC - December 9, 2009 at 2:28 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 9, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 9, 2009 at 6:35 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 9, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Amphora - December 9, 2009 at 10:47 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 9, 2009 at 11:01 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by fr0d0 - December 10, 2009 at 5:21 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by leo-rcc - December 10, 2009 at 5:49 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by fr0d0 - December 10, 2009 at 7:57 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by LEDO - December 13, 2009 at 12:10 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 13, 2009 at 3:02 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by LEDO - December 13, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 14, 2009 at 1:55 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 14, 2009 at 3:13 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 14, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 14, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 14, 2009 at 7:42 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 14, 2009 at 9:05 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 15, 2009 at 2:16 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by theVOID - December 18, 2009 at 9:23 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by leo-rcc - December 10, 2009 at 4:28 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Amphora - December 9, 2009 at 11:22 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by tackattack - December 10, 2009 at 6:11 am
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 1:11 pm
RE: There is more than one way to heaven. - by Amphora - December 13, 2009 at 1:53 am

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