There is more than one way to heaven.

[theVOID]

What if we fast forward it so far to the future that bears are extinct and there are no fossilized remains. someone has eventually wrote the story down at the time it was told to them and passed that down. If the basis for the writing of the story started at a point even 500 years after the original it would still differ greatly. The natural world is something you're going to have to define for me.My perspective at the time of the original occurance was based on my percieved reality of my surrounding world. Who are we to say what a more primitive man's percieved reality was. To them seeing angels and pillars of fire was commonplace. It was real enough for them to transcibe an oral tradition and put their observations of it onto a scroll. I'm pretty sure I saw Chris angel walk on water a few weeks ago. Perhaps we just lack perspective on what is attainable?

What if we fast forward it so far to the future that unicorns are extinct and there are no fossilized remains. someone has eventually wrote the story down at the time it was told to them and passed that down.

Clear enough?

http://www.crystalinks.com/unicornlascaux.jpg
prehistoric cave drawing depicting something that could have become the now "unicorn"
That doesn't answer the question. If all of your physical evidence is dust or destroyed, if the knowledge of how to build something is lost. Does that mean the thing couldn't have exist?

No of course it does not - i have said this many times to you already and you don't seem to pick up on it. I'm not saying that Unicorns never existed, nor Jesus nor Horus - what i am saying is that nobody knows whether or not they ever existed, and while there may be cave drawings or hearsay about them that does not qualify any level of certainty about their existence.

Someone needs to tell those tourists in Egypt that the pyramids don't really exist if that's the case

That makes no sense at all, if the Pyramids are still there then you don't need historical evidence for their existence.

If the basis for the writing of the story started at a point even 500 years after the original it would still differ greatly.

Christianity is only 40 years after, so it's a bad comparison.

unless the bible is just a more modern interpretation of previous evidence. I'm no biblical historian but I'm pretty sure the old testament predates Christianity by more than 40 years.

I said 40 years after... that is when Paul of Tarsus's first writings appeared. That is a very different scenario to the 500 years after-the-fact hypothetical extinct bear scenario you used as comparison.

My perspective at the time of the original occurance was based on my percieved reality of my surrounding world. Who are we to say what a more primitive man's percieved reality was.

A lot of people have perceived many different things, we can either believe all of them because "who are we to say" or we can compare their experience to a reality that we can observe and see if they are congruent.

To them seeing angels and pillars of fire was commonplace. It was real enough for them to transcibe an oral tradition and put their observations of it onto a scroll.

There are lots of people seeing Greek and Roman and Egyptian entities too, does that mean they are also true? What about people seeing ghosts? People who claim to be abducted by UFO's? What about David Icke seeing reptilian overlords who rule the world?

If the claims of Jews and Christians are good enough for you to consider them true then why don't you believe everything that anyone has ever claimed? It is all the same stock standard testimony.

Because of my tests with God. Because I see patterns in coincidences that are based off actions I have no choice in or don't want. Because I can see the end results of my work are far better than if I had done nothing.

Tests with God? Be more specific

Everyone see's patterns and coincidences and we remember them because they are the improbable, we can't chose coincidence because that would invalidate it, so it hardly stands to reason that whether or not you want them makes a difference.

End results of what work? And what do you mean if i had done nothing?

I'm pretty sure I saw Chris angel walk on water a few weeks ago. Perhaps we just lack perspective on what is attainable?

Chris Angel would be the first person to tell you that none of that shit is real. He's an illusionist and Skeptic!

I thought you would like that! I don't claim that it's real. I don't believe in talking serpents or burning talking bushes, or pillars of fire. I've never experienced or seen it. The point I was making was the people taking eye witness account believed it was real. Therefore I allow the possibility.

But you aren't just allowing the possibility - you're accepting it as a fact and organizing your life around the conclusions it leads to.

I'm not going to say that none of it is possible, but i'm sure as hell not going to dive head first into believing the testimony of primitive people or anyone for that matter, especially considering the amount of delusion present in the world, the strange pattern seeking in humans such as pareidolia, nor the fact that many people would make up such claims for power, money and cheap thrills.