RE: Explain to me the math behind redemption
June 5, 2013 at 1:05 pm
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2013 at 1:15 pm by Drich.)
(June 4, 2013 at 9:49 pm)Zarith Wrote:(June 4, 2013 at 9:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Post 13 answers the op. your current questions are not reflected in the op. are you intentionally moving the goal posts or are you unwilling to address the answers given?I gave your non-argument a more complete response than I felt it deserved, honestly. It isn't moving the goalposts when I take your own word game and run with the logical consequences.
So you fancy yourself as a forward thinker. Not all of us do. So maybe you can tell me how you got from your orginal questions, to the ones you have about Christ dying for sins?
If there was indeed a 'logical progression' then why not logically 'progress' together?
(June 5, 2013 at 11:46 am)Thackerie Wrote:(June 4, 2013 at 9:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Post 13 answers the op. your current questions are not reflected in the op. are you intentionally moving the goal posts or are you unwilling to address the answers given?
Nah. I went back to look at post 13. It doesn't explain anything. Just some mindlessly asserted dribble: "Hell is death. Resurrection is life."
Here is the OP:
Quote:If any 1 person's sins are grievous enough to warrant an eternity in hell, how does someone else 'pay for' the sins of everybody without themselves spending an eternity in hell?In the OP there is a statement, and a question.
The Statement:
Quote:If any 1 person's sins are grievous enough to warrant an eternity in hell,
The question:
Quote:how does someone else 'pay for' the sins of everybody without themselves spending an eternity in hell?
My response:
Hell is Spiritual Death. The bible refers to Hell as being a place and as being Death. Or a Place to Die spiritually, a Place where the Spirit dies/Consumed by Hell fire.
The bible does not give us the impression that Hell is the Devils realm where he rules with a pitch fork, and torments people. All who are sent to Hell are sent there to be consumed by Hell fire. Only Satan is to be punished for eternity. (This world is Satan's play ground not Hell, he is sent there to be punished like everyone else.)
Resurrection is Life. or a return to Life. an Awaking.
So how does one pay for sins and not spend eternity in Hell/Death? He awakens from death/Sheol.