RE: Pedophilia; I can't accept it.
June 7, 2013 at 4:14 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2013 at 4:19 pm by Gilgamesh.)
(June 7, 2013 at 9:55 am)Savannahw Wrote: I think Max-Greece and Nora made a lot of great points. When I was 13, a 25 year old man was just that a MAN. I was a kid. I didn't want to date a man. I wanted to date the cute boy in my class.More irrelevant conjecture.
Quote:I think Most people would want that for their kids to date someone of there own maturity level.Probably, although, I'm not seeing why what the parents want is relevant.
Quote: There is NOWAY a 13 year old girl is as physically mature as a 25 year old girl.I agree. No one is arguing otherwise.
Quote:Now mental maturity happens at different rates. I considered myself very mature at 13 I had a lot of responsibilities, but now I know just how much I have changes in all the years.Irrelevant conjecture again.
Quote:I do not think that any 13 year old child is ready for a relationship with an adult.What you think is irrelevant. Why do you think that if something offends you, the object of offence is indebted to you? As in, a relationship between two people that aren't you strikes you the wrong way so you feel it shouldn't happen; why? Why are you trying to take away the rights of others when those rights effect you in no way?
Quote: While there might be some 13 year old that are ready to explore their bodies, then they should do so with someone at the same level.Why?
Quote:Not someone who has the mental, physical, and emotional experience of a grown adult.Implying all grown adults are the same, relative to non-adults. The premise is false.
Quote:As we grow up, we get better bull'o'meters and become harder to manipulate. We can tell the difference between healthy attention, someone who wants to love us in a healthy way and someone who doesn't.More irrelevant conjecture and not necessarily.
Quote:As we mature we also see the differences in people of different ages and maturity levels.Everyone is different, no matter their age. You have yet to show why age is associated with maturity/intelligence. Even if it was, you have also yet to show why two people with varying maturity/intelligence (both of which are subjective, too, so that further pushes the premise away from reason) cannot engage in a healthy relationship.
Quote:No a 13 year old girl is not a baby, but she is in no way an adult.Cool story, bro?
Quote: Adults should be able to see the difference in a baby and teen and someone who is a dateable candidate.Again, why can't a teen be a dating candidate for an adult?
Quote:At that age our parents should be there to guide us, when we are unable to tell a dateable person from someone who isn't. It is sad that her's weren't. It is even more sad to think they encouraged it.It's sad that you think your feelings on the matter should effect everyone, and not just yourself. You don't like teens dating adults? Cool, don't date an adult.
The entirety of your post consist of irrelevant ramblings and repeating the very statement that I am arguing against, as if reciting the statement is an argument for the statement.
(June 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm)Savannahw Wrote: Max, I totally and completely agree with everything you just said. I was trying to come back from the sock that violet thinks a 13 year old has the same physical maturity as an adult. That is just...blind. I feel like she is just trolling now. I think she is just looking to argue and whatnot instead of actually converse about the subject.Because if someone has a viewpoint that is not the norm; their trolling. There's no way someone can actually think like that!
Also,
Quote:I was trying to come back from the sock that violet thinks a 13 year old has the same physical maturity as an adult.is an outright stawman.
But hey, who cares about logic. If the oppositions position doesn't resound good feelings within you, it can't be right, and anyone who thinks it is is trolling.