Violet,
For someone who obviously holds herself in such high esteem you appear not to be able to understand the written word too well when it is laid out before you. This may be deliberate on your part of course, in order to further your argument, but it is getting very noticeable.
"Theism and assumptions of rightness?"
Not what I said. Not even close. Theism and the assumption of the "right to judge" is what I said. How could you miss that? You're so intelligent. Oh look - you picked it up later claiming everyone has the right to judge. This leads us to ask what the value of that judgement might be?
Moral structures and processes, as in any structures and processes have to be populated by inputs. In the moral equation time and place are huge determinants in what those inputs might be. The same process and or structure can therefore yield massively different results. Again for such an intelligent person to miss this....
That you do not see any of this insulates me against your accusations of my parenting skills.
"Sure they do. That only takes them to about four.."
Based on? Violet's view of the universe? Forgive me if I don't immediately see the light oh divinity.
Labeling children as retarded merely because they don't appear to have the level of development (experience) the great god Violet thinks they should have is extremely useful to society as a whole. A child that makes an error of judgement obviously shows how retarded they are.
"Over-protective parents." You do so love your derogatory labels don't you. Notice how all encompassing a phrase it is too. In the world according to Violet a parent that tries to pull their child away from a cliff edge on a windy day is over-protective. Gee - wait till you meet some of the Jewish and Greek mothers I know. All bad parents, obviously, total failures on the Violet parental rating system.
"Oh dearie me... I don't know what growing up means."
Obviously - but that's nothing compared to your lack of understanding as to what being a parent is all about.
Thus far you have felt free to judge me throughout the discussion. I have desisted reversing the process until this thread.
From what you have written I would surmise that you were sexualized at an early age. Probably too early and this has affected your life as you have rationalized your experiences and become the person you are. There have been several references that draw me to this conclusion but I will pick up on just one.
During the discussion when we were talking about a 6 year old you suggested that said child might want to use a strap-on. Whilst I know this was your attempt to shock me it is telling that you do not see how absolutely bizarre such an event would be. For a 6 year old to want to use a strap-on means that they must have seen one and had its use either explained or demonstrated. It would be a very strange scenario that this would happen. There is no need for a 6 year old to have any knowledge of such things - particularly in the light of there being so many more relevant things for them to learn about. My point is no child would imagine a strap-on.
A child that is being exposed to such graphic sexuality is a child that is being groomed, as, I would guess, you were. In fact this is one of the ways that investigations can tell where adults have sought to abuse children. Take a 6 year old child and give them 2 dolls. Watch them play. The vast majority of children will have them doing routine, day to day activity that is remarkably non-sexual. A sexualised child will play very differently - putting the dolls in sexual positions. This is learned behaviour. It is evidence of abuse that is routinely used in courts.
Of course you will immediately argue how wrong they are to do so. Why?
Because you are a theist. The only different thing is that you see yourself as the deity in question.
For someone who obviously holds herself in such high esteem you appear not to be able to understand the written word too well when it is laid out before you. This may be deliberate on your part of course, in order to further your argument, but it is getting very noticeable.
"Theism and assumptions of rightness?"
Not what I said. Not even close. Theism and the assumption of the "right to judge" is what I said. How could you miss that? You're so intelligent. Oh look - you picked it up later claiming everyone has the right to judge. This leads us to ask what the value of that judgement might be?
Moral structures and processes, as in any structures and processes have to be populated by inputs. In the moral equation time and place are huge determinants in what those inputs might be. The same process and or structure can therefore yield massively different results. Again for such an intelligent person to miss this....
That you do not see any of this insulates me against your accusations of my parenting skills.
"Sure they do. That only takes them to about four.."
Based on? Violet's view of the universe? Forgive me if I don't immediately see the light oh divinity.
Labeling children as retarded merely because they don't appear to have the level of development (experience) the great god Violet thinks they should have is extremely useful to society as a whole. A child that makes an error of judgement obviously shows how retarded they are.
"Over-protective parents." You do so love your derogatory labels don't you. Notice how all encompassing a phrase it is too. In the world according to Violet a parent that tries to pull their child away from a cliff edge on a windy day is over-protective. Gee - wait till you meet some of the Jewish and Greek mothers I know. All bad parents, obviously, total failures on the Violet parental rating system.
"Oh dearie me... I don't know what growing up means."
Obviously - but that's nothing compared to your lack of understanding as to what being a parent is all about.
Thus far you have felt free to judge me throughout the discussion. I have desisted reversing the process until this thread.
From what you have written I would surmise that you were sexualized at an early age. Probably too early and this has affected your life as you have rationalized your experiences and become the person you are. There have been several references that draw me to this conclusion but I will pick up on just one.
During the discussion when we were talking about a 6 year old you suggested that said child might want to use a strap-on. Whilst I know this was your attempt to shock me it is telling that you do not see how absolutely bizarre such an event would be. For a 6 year old to want to use a strap-on means that they must have seen one and had its use either explained or demonstrated. It would be a very strange scenario that this would happen. There is no need for a 6 year old to have any knowledge of such things - particularly in the light of there being so many more relevant things for them to learn about. My point is no child would imagine a strap-on.
A child that is being exposed to such graphic sexuality is a child that is being groomed, as, I would guess, you were. In fact this is one of the ways that investigations can tell where adults have sought to abuse children. Take a 6 year old child and give them 2 dolls. Watch them play. The vast majority of children will have them doing routine, day to day activity that is remarkably non-sexual. A sexualised child will play very differently - putting the dolls in sexual positions. This is learned behaviour. It is evidence of abuse that is routinely used in courts.
Of course you will immediately argue how wrong they are to do so. Why?
Because you are a theist. The only different thing is that you see yourself as the deity in question.
