(June 11, 2013 at 4:22 am)Arellius Wrote: This is one of the first sources I came across. > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...313AAc2kUlWell that's not a source. It's just one uninformed opinion after another.
Quote:You say that the ages of the holy couple are stated nowhere, however you insist on the notion that they were only 1-3 years apart ?Incorrect. I even emphasised the point that it is "most likely".
Quote:How do you make that claim without showing me evidence first ? You might go browsing for an article somewhere where they argue the ages of the holy couple, however there are arguments about it everywhere from people just like you who believe that they were either 1-3 years apart or 10-30 years apart.The Romans considered most other people around them to be barbaric primitives, you know. The Jews themselves were considered primitive by the Romans - it's in fact an early form of antisemitism. But that aside, Romans were marrying at the same ages as the Jews, and so was everyone else. You keep refusing to admit the fact that there is nothing unique or specific about it to religion. I don't understand how, or why, you should point at a minority group who is doing nothing out of the ordinary in this area. We're not talking about Islam in the 21st century - that is very different.
Quote:I don't think you get my issue, once again my issue is; Some sicko's in Religion think it's okay to have a sexual relationship with A CHILD ! I'm sure I don't need to remind a intellect such as yourself that it's, ehm, wrong ? All I am saying is, Joseph might of been a pervert. Arguable not a conscious one because in that time, indeed they didn't know any better, and neither did any of them in that time.Yeah, it's real perverted to have an (average) 18 month betrothal before the marriage.

Quote:However 2000 years later (in today's world) a person is sick to think that it's okay for a grown man to marry/bed a child in the name of....whichever deity.I do not understand why you insist on posting this uninformed nonsense. Again: it wasn't unique to religion.
Quote:Joseph Smith; Married a 14 year old whilst having other wives, too. And he was in his 30's.Correct, and as I understand it - polygamy aside - it wasn't that unusual for men in their 30's to marry teenage girls at that time. So what?
Quote:The Prophet Muhammad; Married a 9 year old girl.Yes, Muhammad is a paedophile, that you are allowed to say, you have my permission.
Quote:Jewish Community; Had a ritual of sucking off a baby's penis and spitting out the flesh, aka most likely and old way of circumcision which is now abolished I guess or which was abandoned because it wasn't hygienic. I wonder how many baby's they went through to figure that one out.I have no idea what you're on about. All it sounds like to me is uninformed antisemitic garbage.
Quote:FGM in the name of... : Mutilating a little girls organs to sustain her natural sexual needs later on.That has nothing to do with the topic of paedophilia, it's just another example of the horrors that Islam - the religion of peace - has brought to the world.
Quote:I agree that the title of the topic has little to do with what is said here, however, what about all those trusted Catholics, men of God who defiled little boys and has now been a mainstream joke for many years?Dude, in some places the rate at which children are molested is higher than 90%. Given the size of the RCC it is inevitable that they will have to deal with child abuse occurring. What is not tolerable, what I find disturbing, and the problem with the RCC is their policy was to protect the image of the church - and that meant keeping these matters private, secret, and away from law enforcement. It meant that molesters were allowed to continue their activities, it meant that victims were neglected. I'm on the record on this, I have no love for the RCC and especially not for their track record in how they handled child sexual abuse.
Quote:You can argue all you want about scriptures, history and make attempts to school me however you cannot deny the fact that various religions have done equally detestable things as any psychopath you've ever heard of. A psychopath has no remorse and finds great pleasure in hurting people, but a religious person? Is sane and conscious of their actions and what do they do it for? To worship a deity of their choice, because it is the will of the big man in the sky.You can not be more wrong when it comes to the topic of paedophilia.
You hold it up as if it's something that religion created - this is nonsense.
Quote:I'll change the title of the topic to; ''Religion's abuse to children; Intolerable.'' [moderator ?] That would indeed be a much more fitting title. And this, you will not be able to deny.The only religion you can level that claim against, is Islam. And I think you know that.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke