(June 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm)Arellius Wrote: YOUR ONLY ISSUE SEEMS TO BE WITH ISLAM, AND THE ONLY TIME YOU ADMIT SOMETHING IS WITH MUHAMMAD, MAKES ME WONDER...
I CONSIDER MYSELF AN ANTI THEIST IN THE MAKING, SO I ADDRESS ALL RELIGIONS. BUT YOU, HOWEVER SEEM TO ONLY ATTACK ISLAM, ACTUALLY KINDA TYPICAL. AND I'M STARTING TO BELIEVE YOU ARE THE KIND OF CLOSED MINDED TYPE OF; MAN OF FAITH. SO YOUR GOD IS THE BEST AND YOU WILL NOW GO TO HEAVEN FOR DEFENDING HIM ON THE INTERNET, EEEEHM, GREAT.
(June 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm)Arellius Wrote: YOU SAY; SO WHAT !? A TRUE CHILD MOLESTER COULD THINK THE SAME THING - SO WHAT, IT WAS DONE BACK THEN AND BY JOSEPH SMITH, I CAN DO IT TOO.
THIS IS EXACTLY MY POINT, AND STILL YOU....DON'T...GET...MY....ISSUE. OF COURSE RELIGION DIDN'T INVENT THESE HORRORS, HOWEVER DOES PRACTICE THEM IN THE NAME OF...A DEITY OF SOME SORT WHICH MAKES THEM SEVERELY DELUDED.
(June 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm)Arellius Wrote:
Quote:ALL IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS UNINFORMED ANTISEMITIC GARBAGE.
I AM SO GLAD YOU SAID 'UNIFORMED'. BECAUSE I GOT THAT LITTLE PIECE OF INFO FROM CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS' BOOK. I'M ALMOST SURE YOU WILL MAKE A LOUSY ATTEMPT TO BASH AND DISCREDIT HIM, HOWEVER, I WILL JUST SMILE WHEN YOU DO AND LET YOU SWIM HAPPILY IN YOUR POOL OF IGNORANCE. THAT IS ONLY IF...
(June 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm)Arellius Wrote: REALLY ?! SO EVERY OTHER RELIGION IS PERFECT IN COMPARISON TO ISLAM ? AND AGAIN, THE ONLY RELIGION YOU DEGRADE IS ISLAM. NOTE - ISLAM IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT COMMITTED HORRORS TO CHILDREN.
IF YOU THINK IT WAS ALRIGHT, IN ANY TIME TO WED AND BED A CHILD?! THEN WE ARE DONE. THEN YOU MIGHT TELL ME THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER, WELL, GOD SAID; ''FIRST I'LL LET THE GROWN UPS HAVE THEIR FUN WITH LITTLE KIDS, MARRY THEM AND FUCK THEM, AND THEN LATER I'LL MAKE THEM CREATE LAWS TO FORBID THIS. BUT FIRST I HAVE TO MAKE SO MANY KIDS SUFFER.''
THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY FRIKKIN' SENSE TO ME AT ALL ! WHY NOT PUT IT IN THE COMMANDMENTS? THOU SHALT NOT HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH CHILDREN. OR WHY DID HE NOT MAKE ONE OF HIS SPOKESMAN TELL HIS PEOPLE THAT MARRYING AND FUCKING A CHILD IS WRONG, NO, LET'S WAIT A FEW HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE WE PUT A STOP TO THIS.
And I don't much care for the way in which you communicate with me.
You do realize don't you, that 14 year olds in our western society are having premarital consensual sex; don't you? Hell I know people who had their first sex at 12! Now let me guess, if a 14 year old has sex with a 16 year old - well they don't know any better. But if a 14 year old has sex with a 29 year old - then the 29 year old should know better, right? Couldn't agree more. Why do you think we don't let 17 year olds marry in Australia? Two 17 year old want to get married, why don't we let them? Hmm? You want to know why? Because they most likely will not stick together. In our society if 17 year olds get married, chances are a divorce is just a year or two - at most - away.
Fine.
We have a society in which we have ... EDUCATION. I haven't seen you use this word once yet. You know what happens if a 29 year old gets married to a 14 year old? The 14 year old drops out of school. In fact, let me take this a step further.
A good friend of mine, Kath. Now I would have been about 22 or 23, she was 16. And she told me that she was moving in with her boyfriend, and I said "are you sure that this is the right choice?" And she said "shut up you don't know anything, you're just jealous". I'm like OK, whatever. So literally about a week after her 17th birthday, she moved to Sydney to live with her 29-year old boyfriend. I wasn't happy about it, but hey I don't get a fucking say in the matter do I because it's legal, it's not like any laws are being breeched. But she didn't finish school! She didn't finish year 11 let alone year 12. That was always my concern.
I'll tell you about another friend of mine - about a year later. She was 17, and she really liked me, and I certainly wouldn't have liked to have started a relationship with her and been responsible for her dropping out of school - so and that's not the only reason - but I told her I wasn't interested in having a relationship. And she and I are still good friends - unlike Kath who never talked to me again.
So don't come and lecture me about what you think is moral.
(June 11, 2013 at 7:25 pm)Arellius Wrote: YOUR AN ANGLICAN, SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES THAT WHAT IS IN THE OT AND NT WILL BRING YOU SALVATION. I KEEP FORGETTING I'M ARGUING WITH SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN A DICTATOR IN THE SKY. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO, FOLLOW THE LESSONS IN THE BIBLE AND BE ALLOWED INTO HEAVEN. DAWKINS AND HITCHENS HAVE IN MANY DEBATES SLAUGHTERED ON WHAT YOU THINK IS ''THE WAY''. OR A 'MIDDLE-WAY' AT THAT.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
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"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke