RE: Why is belief in a higher power required?
June 19, 2013 at 10:22 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2013 at 11:09 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 19, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Esquilax Wrote:Godschild Wrote:I do not say nonbelievers can't live a happy life, what I say is they better because what's to come will be anything but happy.
Could you maybe dial it the fuck back, a little?
Not when you ask like that, I can turn up the heat though.

(June 19, 2013 at 7:36 pm)Ryantology Wrote:(June 19, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: We (Christians) live for an eternal future, nonbelievers live for the here and now, so our lives are very much different and we know without God the eternal future is not possible. For the nonbeliever whether there is a God or not they live to be worm food, no wonder we Christians choose to believe in Christ our savior.
In other words, you fear death to the point where convincing yourself that death isn't final is vital to maintaining your happiness. Also, it means that you're in this for your own benefit, not for God's, which is the entire point of this religion, meaning that you (Christians) are selfish opportunists, and last I remember, your god doesn't look kindly upon that at all.
I do not have to fear death, it is you who should fear the eternal life if you do not change, hell is a very unhappy place. I do want to live with God forever,yes, if that's selfish then count me selfish, however I have served God at what nonbelievers would call, giving up the good life. I also came out of these serves with gain from God, as He promises, it is spiritual gain something you would not understand. God also says for us to build up our treasures in heaven and not here where decay will eat away at them. You're wrong, it is a relationship with God that is the point, and that relationship is an opportunity to grow as a human so we can serve God better. The selfishness that God does not like is that of those who try to live life on their own.
(June 19, 2013 at 9:30 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(June 19, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: For the nonbeliever whether there is a God or not they live to be worm food, no wonder we Christians choose to believe in Christ our savior.
Are you saying you choose to believe in Christ because that frightens you?
And what is wrong with being worm food anyway? It's the cycle of life. Do you think it's strange that I find beauty in that?
That was meant as a jab, we all will be food for worms, however I will get a new body when Christ returns. You do live life expecting to be nothing more than a decayed body, I live life expecting a new life and body and serve my Lord for that gift. What I do find strange is you do not care about a future perfect life, that you are satisfied with this one only.
(June 19, 2013 at 9:59 pm)Savannahw Wrote:(June 19, 2013 at 9:30 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Are you saying you choose to believe in Christ because that frightens you?
And what is wrong with being worm food anyway? It's the cycle of life. Do you think it's strange that I find beauty in that?
I think it sounds peaceful. Which sounds magnificent.
Peaceful is for those who are able to appreciate it. When one is dead as you see death nothing can be appreciated. Just as you could not appreciate before you were born.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.