(June 20, 2013 at 6:45 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: There is no evidence that supports anyone was successfully converted from a homosexual to a heterosexual. Studies have shown that the people are still gay and that they are merely suppressing their true desires. Case in point, Ted Haggard.so your saying no man ever has had gay 'feelings' that has not been absolutely 100% gay? And of that 100% no man has ever out grown those feelings to ever truly only love a woman?
Do you have any proof? Or am I to simply take you at your word that you know the heart of every man in the history of the world who has ever or will ever live?
Quote:What should happen to those people is that they come to the realization there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay.
That's what I'm asking sport. What if a gay man does not want to be gay? What if a man who has a wife and kids does not want to have gay feelings? What if he wants to put the lives and happiness of his family over that of his own? What if he derives more pleasure from providing his family with a stable traditional home environment, than perusing his lustful wants and desires?
Which begs the question, How would this situation differ from every other straight married man with a wife and kids, who has had someone woman he finds attractive, hit one him?
Its like cheating on your wife with another woman is still a societal sin, but cheating on her with some dude is somehow ok. Cheating is still cheating, no matter how you're logistically doing it. My question remains. What if a man no longer wants to have gay feelings? Is he to be torn for his wife and kids because of this 'untreatable' condition? Is he doomed to succumb to his lustful desire because /society looks down on anyone who wishes to redirect his sexual desire back toward his wife through sexually specific consuling?
Why would a gay man who married a woman and has kids be any less responsible for his wedding vows than a straight man? what a self righteous load of crap that is. Why is it wrong for him to seek specialized help if HE WANTS Help? Or if HE WANTS to stay with His Wife? Why is it wrong to want to live for something greater than ones own selfish (sexually specific) desire? (As only certain kinda of sexual promiscuity is permitted in this society.)
Same rules, same situation, same sexual desire, same driving force, but different expectation with in the same double standard society as the gay guy.