Godschild Wrote:Those children died to punish the parents, God is justly returning a horror, those children do have eternal life with God, who said God allowed the innocent children and infants to suffer, not scripture.
Esq Wrote:You don't think people suffer when they're murdered, GC? Do you know what it feels like to be stabbed? I mean, I'm assuming these children died by the sword, but it doesn't matter; stabbing hurts. I know this to be true. It's as far from pleasant as one could imagine. So's being bludgeoned, or burned... any way of dying, really. That's why we don't like being violently killed.
Why do I even have to explain this to you?
You try because it makes you feel like somebody, you need a life, no you need Christ.
Yes, I know people feel pain when they are stabbed, the one thing you can not discount is the mercy God could have and cause these children to feel nothing, omnipotent.
GC Wrote:Now you are the one making a claim from scripture so prove they were to be used as sex slaves, just show us the passages that say they were sex slave or that they were raped, you made this claim defend it, you do have a Bible do you not, if not there are Bibles on the net.
Esq Wrote:I looked it up. Now, given that it's the bible and it sort of does what you guys do today, and dresses up atrocities in more pleasant language as if that's an excuse, but here:
This is not what you've been saying, you've been spouting all the horrible vile your mind can come up with about the Bible, now that you can not support that vile with the very thing you try to disgrace you have to make excuses and why so you can keep on saying every untruth about scripture you can dream up.
Judges 21: 11-14 Wrote:
Esq Wrote:So, to be clear: kill the men, non virgin women and children, and keep the virgins. Kind of a clear implication anyway. But then, these kidnapped survivors of a genocidal slaughter are given away like the property of their kidnappers to be "wives" to strangers. I doubt that's what they wanted.
Somethings can be worse than death, yet they would have preferred to be the wives of their conquers than to be left with nothing, no husbands, no food, no means to make a living other than prostitution, no where to live in safety. So they could have left them to a worse fate.
Esq Wrote:So indentured servants, as well as sex slaves. Yes, that does make it better, doesn't it?
Exactly were does it say that, why do you think these women were mistreated when the scriptures did not mention such. Why is it you see the worse in a people you do not know, why do you assume the worse of the Israelites. Your imagination is not only wild it's most distasteful, this leads to a lie.
esq Wrote:No doubt you will scrabble to retain your blindness here; you may be tempted to argue that since the scripture doesn't specifically use the word "rape," then they weren't, and that they wanted to be given away like chattel, the spoils of war from a murderous conflict that destroyed everything they had ever known. I will not argue against such idiocy, but will in fact leave you to wallow in your callow ignorance, if that is the path in which you wish to indulge.
I do hope for something more interesting from you, however.
You saw that did you, yep the word rape was not used so why do you assume the women were, again you assume the worst in people of ancient days. You claim that atheist have morals yet will claim anyone in scripture do not posses morals, why are you so bigoted, do you have no shame. I indulge in seeking truth, you on the other hand seek to create your own truth out of lies, just exactly how does that set with reason, you know that which you claim to have yet, continue to demonstrate the opposite. You have completely and absolutely failed in your attempt to pronounce guilt upon these people, you've given no facts to the contrary of scripture, only the same nonsense that comes from your warped mind. So the scriptures stand on their own as they always do.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.