Quote:If God was responsible for everyone's sense of morality, as I allegedly claimed, not only would humanity be an ant farm under mind control, but we would be exempt from all penalties desribed in law, and in the law of God himself.
That is where we differ in opinion. I feel that if there was a god, then he would be responsible for EVERYTHING through authorship of creation. Is this not accepted in your church? If your god was a responsible deity then I believe that it's only reasonable he should be held accountable for the moral destruction carried out in his name, furthermore I happen to believe that applying the fault to humanity alone is obscene, the sad fact is millions and millions of people were brutally killed by christians doing gods will.
You claim god gives us free will so we can decide whether to follow the rules and have eternal bliss, however if you do not know about god you get a free pass...
Quote:So bad Christians and bad 'savages' are the same. They both are denied God when they live sinful lives of unrepentance. They both go to Purgatory (I am a Catholic) if they didn't know what they were doing was wrong and strove to do good, which would be better than having done wrong while knowing it was wrong. And if they both follow their nearly identical moral codes to fullness, they both live for eternity with God.
so, why do those that do not have the means to know god have free will?
Quote:I did not suggest it, I did not carry it out, and I did not support it. Neither did God.
Sticking your head in the sand is typical, but considering how well this was going I didn't expect you to deflect the conversation to OldshitTube after I prove 270million dead by the hands of christians. To say that these atrocities didn't involve you is asinine considering you are preaching the teachings of the deity that the these people were preaching at the time of said atrocities, making you an ironically guilty scapegoat for your cop-out lord.