(June 24, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Godschild Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Insanity x Wrote: The terrorists that died flying into the twin towers died in a pretty nasty way. Does that make them right too? They thought they were martyr's too.
Their deaths were instantaneous, they were not imprisoned on numerous occasions, they were not stone, nor whipped for their beliefs, no one threatened their lives over and over.
I realise I'm going to regret asking this, but why should this make any difference? This is nothing but pure red herring. They martyred themselves for their politico-religious beliefs. Perversely, that makes them far more devout than the typical grassroots theist.
(June 24, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: The disciples did not see themselves as martyrs, they actually placed themselves below others, they considered they were servants to others.
Interestingly, that is the exact polar opposite in every particular to almost every theist I've ever encountered. Certainly the outspoken ones.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
