(June 26, 2013 at 11:53 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: There are some Atheist fanatics on this very forum, and the answer some have given to my question is to see a world without religion.
That is a goal of anti-theism, not atheism.
(June 26, 2013 at 12:01 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: Sounds like the trappings of religion to me.
I find it amusing that so many theists grasp at tu quoque as their favorite criticism of atheism. I don't see how using 'you're just a religion' doesn't play into the hands of the anti-theists in the long run.
But which trappings of religion are we talking about? Cremonies, prayers, sacred spaces, mystic symbolism, folk narratives, clergy, scriptures, festivals, funerary services special music, moral teachings, ritual obligations...where does 'would rather theism didn't even exist' fall in there?
(June 26, 2013 at 11:53 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: Denying Atheism is a world-view,
It's a single opinion on a single topic, not enough to make a world view in itself. Atheists have world views, atheism isn't their world view, it's just one feature of their world view. The same is true of theism. We don't deny it's a world view for any other reason than that it is inaccurate to say that it is.
(June 26, 2013 at 11:53 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: or religious in nature,
Theism isn't necessarily religious in nature either. It takes more than the notion that some sort of God(s) exists to be religious.
(June 26, 2013 at 11:53 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: seems like a way to deflect attention from yourselves to what you think is a contradiction, flaw, or downright "evil" intention of a religion or religious person.
In the West, there is a tendency for atheists to be grammar and spelling nazis. That has a lot more to do with our opinions on the meanings of words than some strategic endgame we came up with in a secret meeting as a step in our long-range goals. I'm religious myself (Unitarian Universalist), Q.E.D.