RE: Why is belief in a higher power required?
June 27, 2013 at 2:59 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2013 at 3:05 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 27, 2013 at 12:35 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(June 27, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: no original thoughts of your own, just parrot those who come before you.
Seems absolutely no different than Christian interpretation to me. After all, what a Christian family has learned regarding the interpretation of scripture merely gets passed down to the next generation verbatim.
I may offer atheist quotes from time to time, giving credit to the author, but by no means do I parrot what other atheists have learned in regards to studying the bible. I read the bible on my own, studied the scripture on my own from when I was a regular church going believer, and my logical mind simply could not accept the obviously misinterpreted scripture that theists around me gobbled up as though it was divine rather than atrocious.
One thing you can count on, I'm not parroting my parents if I believe what I was taught is not correct I will search out my questions until I find the truth. When you see the sovereignty of God you, you then will see the difference in atrocities and justice.
(June 27, 2013 at 12:42 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(June 27, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Esquilax, You are looking at all this through a narrow tube, picking at things without looking at the total picture, I've explained this over and over and yet you ignore the facts from scripture. I can not see carrying this on since you ignore the reasons I've shown through scripture, it seems you only desire to tear down scripture and will ignore the facts to do so.
Yes, you've explained the total picture in your eyes, and I've explained to you that I find that justification entirely lacking, given the actions we're talking about. You say it was for the greater good, that it was in fulfillment of god's will, you've even given the greater context of what bad blood there was between the groups.
And I don't care.
Mostly, your actual justification amounts to "it was in accordance with god's will, and is therefore justified." That's not a justification at all; it's just the excuse you're willing to swallow for the amoral ravings in the bible. You might be willing to accept the things you've said as something truthful and worthy of consideration, but don't you dare pretend that the reason I don't agree with you is because I don't know the whole story. The truth is, you've given nothing to agree with; you've just said that what the book represents is what the book represents, and hence you take it as true and right.
I don't. But then, I'm not looking at it with a presupposition that every word of it is divine truth. I'm looking at it with my feet planted on the ground.
Well I guess will have to agree to disagree, one note though I know you did not know the entire story of this discussion until it was told to you, your answers before I broke down the story was a great indicator of that. I guess we'll be on to hopefully new discussions.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.