RE: Four questions for Christians
July 7, 2013 at 11:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2013 at 11:53 pm by Consilius.)
@pineapplebunnybounce
I don't know where you got "only religion has morals" from. The "natural law" I referred to is the moral standard of nature.
If someone goes around selling their lives to people, that's their own business, although it would be odd in the 21st century. Do you have a right to tell them that they can't pay their debts by working for households?
God was weaning people from expecting social rights to leading good lives. There is injustice in the world today, and God isn't rallying the marginalized to strike back at their offenders, because some wars are never won. Establishing justice is good in itself, but that shouldn't be the focus of life. Dying with an unheard cry isn't a failure because life is more than your marriage rights or your wealth or your race. It's not about winning the fight for rights either. It's about being the best person you can be.
Paul didn't defend slavery neither did he oppose it. His message was that it simply didn't matter if you were free or in bondage, because God is always with you and he cares about you if no one else does. He said that we shouldn't worry about if the government will ever hear our voices or if we are stepped on the wealthy, because there were more important things than standing up for rights.
One passage is enough for you? The Bible is a unified whole, and not a word of it is self-sufficient. The only reason I see that you don't want to accept it that way is because I gave you evidence that conflicted your conclusion. A conclusion you got from five words.
I mean, come on, does anyone think that's fair? Are we going to take Bible snippets and throw them at Christians without even finishing the sentence? I'm not saying it's true, but it just makes the claimant look desperate. Really.
I don't know where you got "only religion has morals" from. The "natural law" I referred to is the moral standard of nature.
If someone goes around selling their lives to people, that's their own business, although it would be odd in the 21st century. Do you have a right to tell them that they can't pay their debts by working for households?
God was weaning people from expecting social rights to leading good lives. There is injustice in the world today, and God isn't rallying the marginalized to strike back at their offenders, because some wars are never won. Establishing justice is good in itself, but that shouldn't be the focus of life. Dying with an unheard cry isn't a failure because life is more than your marriage rights or your wealth or your race. It's not about winning the fight for rights either. It's about being the best person you can be.
Paul didn't defend slavery neither did he oppose it. His message was that it simply didn't matter if you were free or in bondage, because God is always with you and he cares about you if no one else does. He said that we shouldn't worry about if the government will ever hear our voices or if we are stepped on the wealthy, because there were more important things than standing up for rights.
One passage is enough for you? The Bible is a unified whole, and not a word of it is self-sufficient. The only reason I see that you don't want to accept it that way is because I gave you evidence that conflicted your conclusion. A conclusion you got from five words.
I mean, come on, does anyone think that's fair? Are we going to take Bible snippets and throw them at Christians without even finishing the sentence? I'm not saying it's true, but it just makes the claimant look desperate. Really.
