RE: Four questions for Christians
July 8, 2013 at 12:04 am
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2013 at 12:06 am by Consilius.)
(July 7, 2013 at 11:38 pm)evenheathen Wrote:Loving someone is about forgiving their mistakes. Not about starting over the second it stops acting exactly how you would have preferred it. Hell is for those who don't want to love God, and so they spend eternity in his absence. I'm sorry, it's not an inferno made for kids who use swear words.(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Omnipotence: God is a supernatural being, not my pet dragon. Why would God work against himself if he wills everything he does?
Why does god's "perfect" creation work against his "perfect" plan? From the very beginning his beloved creation fucked up and slighted him. Now he has to burn most of them, even though it makes him sad to do it.
Makes sense.......
(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Omniscience: God knows past, present, and future, forever has, and forever will. God is love, and he wanted to express this love by creating other beings to love so that they could love him.
He sure chose a fucked up way of expressing his love through this creation.
(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Onmibenevolence: Countless men, women, and children stub their toes on doorsteps every day. If you're going to bring up the question of evil, you have to go all the way. Life and the world are nothing compared to a gift that God doesn't take: his always being there. Life is a path towards this gift. Suffering weans us from life, health, family, possessions, and the other physical things we rely on and show us that our lives of something else, and it has something to offer us. Some people say it's chance leading us to uncertain fate, while others take suffering as a step closer to God and his gift.
Stubbed toes......you're right, if we're going to go to the question of evil, we have to all the way. The rest of your answer doesn't even come close to addressing the absurd atrocities and downright unjust lives lived by millions of people around the world who are never given the chance to experience anything other than hardship and suffering. And then they starve to death. God loves all his children. Give me a fucking break with this and your pretty, privileged life.
(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: Omniprescence: God is everywhere in the sense that his love and power can be felt by people all around the world, no matter in what place or conditions they are in.
Bullshit. Just because the thought of an all loving/knowing/powerful dude in the sky tickles your taint, doesn't negate the fact that this world, all facets of it, makes more sense if god doesn't exist than if he does. You're apologetics are neither warranted nor wanted.
The world isn't perfect, and some know that better than others. All suffering, from stubbed toes to dead loved ones, if proof of an imperfect world, and invites us to look for perfection. God, morality, offers itself as that perfection. If the world was perfect, it would require admiration and worship. An imperfect world is a signal on a road to the perfect creator of that world.
(July 8, 2013 at 12:03 am)Ryantology Wrote:I'm pro-gay. Homosexuality has been scientifically proven to be completely natural.(July 7, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Consilius Wrote: So don't go after my religion because Christians are being intolerant, go after it if you can prove that Christianity is inherently intolerant.
Homosexuality is different, therefore it's a sin. Oh, I know, you can justify it by citing an inability to reproduce making it unnatural but we all know how that never matters with heterosexual couples containing one or more infertile people.
If so many Christians can be intolerant based upon their interpretations of Christianity, perhaps Christianity is the problem.
