(July 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm)ronedee Wrote: You get creative freedom, but God gets none?
Your biggest mistake is using your own biased perspective, and limited information to interpet God's will, and motives.
What I get from religion and what your average knuckle draggin' theist gets are very different. I credit this to being able to think outside of the herd or box and being generally skeptical. I got my first clue in church service where everyone held their hands in the air while singing hymns as if they were divine antennae. My next came from honestly considering how utterly stupid the idea of heaven and hell are? I mean really an infinitely smart intelligence has to have a little more originality that that? My last clue is when I saw religious people bickering, fighting warring and I though how very enlightening the message must be!
(July 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm)ronedee Wrote: The devil was [used] by God. And, for those who understand? Ultimately for the sake of Good... in the end!
This is good and a can of worms I will gingerly and oh so very slowly dissect with you. First question: The devil works for God, is that right?
(July 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm)ronedee Wrote: As far as Job goes? That was "obviously" a hypothetical story about what "would" happen.... as many stories by the prophets of the OT.
Job is a farce so what does that do to the blessed account of the messiah return? Will every eye see him riding on a cloud or is that hyperbole too?
(July 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm)ronedee Wrote: IF you are to interpet God's will... you first have to think like God (if that is even remotely possible for anyone).
The bible clearly says this is possible for some but it is a gift depending on how you look at it.
(July 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm)ronedee Wrote: Most of the Truths of God are self-evident. But also much is hidden from those harboring bias, hate, ego and self-reliance. Let those go, and so do the limits on our wisdom and understanding!
I agree with this. The goal is to let information come and go through the breezeway of our minds without imposing our values on it. To examine it without attachment.
"This time the bullet cold rocked ya a yellow ribbon instead of a swastika?" -RATM