(July 16, 2013 at 4:54 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:(July 16, 2013 at 4:08 pm)Godschild Wrote: Unlike the relationship you have with your wife, God wants to hear from us, that's how relationships work.
I don't know about you, but most "relationships" don't involve an invisible entity who responds "in mysterious ways" if they feel like it, or is "part of their plan". Unless you're a psychopath anyway.
Quote:Scriptures say that begging has no place in prayer, faith is what God desires, faith is the opposite of begging you know.
Faith is the opposite of several things, but begging is not one one of them. The opposite of begging would be demanding.
Seems DT's relationship does include God and not indirectly when his wife if part of both relationships.
Yeah, let me see you demand something of a world leader and see where you get.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.