RE: Lighter Skin = Better?
July 16, 2013 at 7:39 pm
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2013 at 7:55 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
Quote:We were vassals of the English. There was no reason to believe that we should have created the Nation that we did.
Being vassals of the English does not make you English, friend. Just as the people of Hindustan were the vassals of the English, they did create a nation state, did they not? So did many of the former vassals, with exceptions being colonies like yourself, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South Africa.
Countries and nations that have names based on the locations that they live on are almost all artificial. Similarly, Great Britain is also artificial, as they are nothing more than what I deem to be the illegitimate child of Celts, Norse/Germanics, and Latins.
Quote:Part of our greatness is that we are a nation descended from those who did not sit at home but struck out to new lands to find their fortune. The people in the Old World are descended from those that just played it safe and stayed home.
Well, indeed, we're the same on that too. Our people have originated in Mongolia, and have spread from there deep into Europe, and actually managed to carve themselves a place there. Nomads, who have defied settled folk with cities, fortifications, and a lot more knowledge about the area. And who were you up against?
I'd say the same for another people, as if we were sprung from the same bloody womb. The Norse. Hell, these guys just might be our bros, for doing the same thing, yet sadly lacking in numbers.
Quote:Yep, freed peasants led by great and learned men.Indeed.
Quote:We brought our names with us. My last name is actually Welsh in origin.I wasn't talking about you, though, descendant of Europeans.
It's not selfish desires to seek a better life at great odds. It's actually brave as shit.
Besides, its not a matter of seeking better lives at great odds. Yes, the first colonists, pioneers, as they are called, were such, they were brave indeed, to venture into lands that they knew little about and such...But those who've come to find the fortune they could not find in their homeland, those who have forsaken their roots, I really do label them as nothing more than selfish. Forsaking your own people, your own lands. There are such people in my country aswell, who are glad to forsake their own selves, and would gladly assimilate anywhere where they can earn more money to buy themselves a car, or many of the luxuries they can't yet afford here maybe.
My loyalty to my own is not measured by such worldly things.
My creed demands sacrifice, it does not promise me paradise on heaven.
Quote:Yeah, the Republicans. They're on the wane.Wane or not, Obama is doing this because it will become necessary in the future. IT's not out of humane concern, but in order to save you from a future catastrophe, where the gap between the rich and the poor will probably get bigger and bigger, and a lot more people will be unable to afford healthcare, at which points you will not just deal with "occupy wall street" type of peaceful demonstrations, but large scale riots that will involve robberies, murders and rapes of people that are wealthier then they are, probably the middle class, or whatever that is left of it at that point, and the upper classes, just as it was the case with the French revolution. But this time, there is no King, and they will strike at the Bourgeoisie, that forms your educated, learned men, and those who employ your educated and learned men.
I'd say that this has something to do with your faulty foundations aswell.
Nothing more.
Quote:Yes. America is the worst nation on Earth. Except for all the others on the planet.Worst, I'd not say, yet you can save yourselves, but you do not wish to end this faulty worldview of yours.
Quote:Empires go, huh? Like the empire your country used to be? You live in a fragment of a part of a dead empire. Turkey has seen better days, friend.And our empire lasted 600 years, while being attacked on all fronts, by Europe, Persia, Russia. You? Never once has your country been invaded, except for Pearl Harbor, and 9/11 of course, after which you've sparked a paranoia about terrorism in the world.
We're still kicking ass and getting stronger.
We live in a fragment of a dead empire, yet our empire was stricken by internal strife that came from strong ethnic sentiments, indeed something which you lack, I'd say, for there are no natives that can tell you to GTFO. We now live in a land where we have ourselves. And in the future, we shall hopefully reunite without brethren, and then we'll see.
Quote:I've visited Turkey before you know. Ah, the calls of "My friend! My friend!" as the locals tried to sell me stuff. And you know what kind of stuff they tried to sell me on every street corner?Yes, I know, a byproduct of being of the "NATO". But I believe the remedy to this is a spoonful of oldschool, hardcore nationalism. This is the fault of another faulty thinking of our past politicians, who were the same as I've described above.
Americana merchandise.
I had to specifically ask for Turkish stuff because I didn't travel half way across the world to buy images of Elvis.
(July 16, 2013 at 7:37 pm)MikeTheInfidel Wrote:I guess you haven't read the part about this motivating me to drive our legacy further. For legacies are left for the future generations. If we did not look back on our previous archivements and took pride, we would not really try to leave something to look upon for the future. Your worldview is very self-centered friend. I guess this is because you've got no one to look upon. And really what do you have?(July 16, 2013 at 5:01 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I'm a member of a people that has created and tore down empires. I look back on these, and take pride, and it motivates me to drive our legacy even further. What do you have, friend?Pride in my own accomplishments, rather than a completely fucking pointless pride in things I had nothing to do with.
"I COME FROM A NATION THAT DID STUFF!" Well WHOOP DE FUCKING DOO. What have YOU done?
National pride is the basis of archivement. Speaking of it, you sound as though if you had inherited property from your parents or relatives, you'd just turn it down or tear it down

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